On 2018-01-10 19:47:57 Yewrev1 said:
I personally don't think Esa us the place to raise your issues about another site. Complain there about your issues, or even better try Hellopeter.com. Maybe someone on there care about your misfortune.

Your choice to use them, so your problem nobody on Esa care about it.

there are tons of posts about heidis sight on this forum. so why should I not share my experience.

You are a fairly new punter on this site. So please check the forum before making silly comments.

Hi all

The subject of this review caught my attention,The first word that caught my eyrd was HEIDI and the second BEWARE...

In the back of my mind im thinking "What on earth is this all about".

While reading the review I could ot help but have my mouth open in utter disbelief.

He spoke about a lady called Lacey, I'd like to think her name is unique and chances are we have had same bookings.

Personally i would not like to get involved but thought I should share a different experience to what you have had.

Ive met Lacey ONCE and ONCE only.
I must say it was one of the most memorable nights of my life.
At first I was nervous about meeting such a gorgeous lady but believe you me within No time we already started great chats and had felt like i had known her forever.

One thing led to another and things got heated.

Like i said,what a night.

If I could I would book her as often as I could as she was also so professional.

I have had no issues with Lacey..ever.

In reply to Sultry Indian Jiah - Good question!!
What did "Classy" () do with her Edgar's card and "unknown" other belonging? Essentially that is the issue that started this whole ridiculous fiasco ....

Let's get this straight... a lady (Lacey) whom you had booked via the Heidi Fleiss Agency had requested she be allowed to collect the items she accidentally left in your hotel room the night before and YOU felt this was out of order and a violation of your discretion and clientele "rights"? - to the point that you went on a tangent to Heidi to "control" her girls and your discretion was disrespected ... and how dare Heidi Fleiss not answer your messages and calls. ( ie. perhaps perceived correctly as pathetic nasty little spoilt rantings that had NO SUBSTANCE , LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE or RATIONAL REASON to the normal human mind - never mind a long -standing BUSY, well respected, competent , successful and reliable agent like Heidi Fleiss ) Here's my question to you "CLASSY" WHAT EXACTLY WAS YOUR ISSUE WITH NOT SIMPLY slipping her items into an envelope and having the concierge hold it for Lacey at reception? Surely the lady was entitled to get her belongings back ? How did this so seriously infringe your discretion rights and why did her request to send her driver to collect these items unsettle you so much ? SO MUCH that you went on a unnecessary onslaught to :
a) did you want to get Lacey punished or thrown off Heidi's books and fired ?
b) defame and shame Heidi Fleiss for not reverting to your irrational brat attack & whingy little next day "hangover"/ sour grapes/ bad mood ?

Were you not of "sane" mind perhaps "Classy "? The severity of your attack and time you have taken to unnecessary shame both agency and lady in question - DOES NOT FIT THE CRIME .
A tad too bit extreme and over the top for a simple request from an escort that wanted her belongings back. Which brings us back to the question : WHAT DID YOU DO WITH HER EDGARS CARD AND "OTHER" ITEM ? Discard of them ? How commendable of you.

Well turns out: I happen to know both Heidi and the lady in question very well - this is not about me taking sides - as hopefully my previous words contest to - and have have posed enough reasonable doubt and emphasised - the absurdity of what ACTUALLY DID transpire CLEARLY enough ...
This is the version of the story I heard from a distressed and outraged Lacey :

Lacey did a booking via Heidi Fleiss with "Classy" late Tuesday evening - when it came time for the booking to end Lacey had to wait for her regular driver whom took longer than anticipated - LACEY told Heidi it had ended - as the driver said he was 5 min away but due to unforeseen circumstances the driver ended up being 40 min late and hence incurring the EXTRA TIME mentioned - whereby "Classy" still wanted to get frisky with Lacey - and SO she put a price to it.

As for the the booking intended for the following night.... Supposedly "underhanded"and without Heidi's knowledge? Firstly, by clearly COERCING with this whole supposed "UNDERHANDED" deal - WITH Lacey - makes YOUR integrity, "Classy"- doubtful AS WELL !! Hardly the actions of the "innocent" and "badly-done-by" man that you claim to be !!!

For your information, FORUM, Lacey explained to me the reason she didn't want to confirm or commit to this additional "Classy" booking or put this to Heidi as yet was because she had a tentative BETTER booking for the following night via another agent and didn't want to say yes to neither "Classy" nor Heidi - until she had definitely confirmed whether that booking (incidentally for a lot more money ) was on or not.

So this is my perspective and take to the events that ACTUALLY took place and the unnecessary defamation now ensuing . Let the members of the forum make their own deductions and as another member suggested: Hellopeter perhaps more apt for a nasty and irrational backlash such as this.

Exactly yawrev what the hell are you complaining about.
This site is to inform all punters about possible scams.

You totally out of line bro

Hiya! So as I always do sitting in transit in Dubai en route to my 3 monthly business trip to JHB, I to kill time and entertain myself by reading bits and pieces on ESA. Well I'm no member as such - until now- as I felt it my duty as a gent and reasonably fair bloke to comment on this classy guys bad vibe... so here's the thing: I treat myself to a Heidi Fleiss lady every time I visit SA, and we talking over a period of a good 4 years now. I've only ever had good bookings with truly stunning ladies well worth the money (I always thought)Heidi's rappoir with me always been spot on! In fact the Lacy escort classy is lambasting is an absolute GEM ! A truly quality, lovely girl I've booked again and again.

Might I also admit (sorry Heidi) I have contacted Lacey ( I had her mobile number as she had to call me the last time to say she had arrived for me to fetch her in lobby of Sandton Towers ) and tried negotiating an all nighter with her off the Heidi Fleiss record - she flatly refused and gave me a good scolding saying I was to respect Heidi's business - which I did and consequently had an epic 2 nights it eventually turned into - above board with Lacey ... absolute DYNAMITE! Her reviews on Heidi's site sing her praises - as do I. Classy needs a reality check. Top Lady , top agency. Kudos to Lacy for sticking to her guns .. less of the hating Classy, get a hobby!

Classy what you did was not 'classy' at all.

As already mentioned you could just have placed her belongings into an envelope and left it at the reception.

There are always two sides to tell. We do not know what happened that day. I would like to think that you are actually ashamed of how you handled the situation and now 'place the blame' on a girl who delivered as expected and surely is fully entitled to get her belongings back.

Shame on you !!

its amazing that these new punters seem to know so much about the incident. iformation that i have not revealed.

could esa please check the credentials of these new forum members.


with regards to this matter it has been settled. I have spoken with heidi and the matter has been resolved.

Heidi explained that she had a family crises and so she could not attend to my compaint but she has delt with the matter as far as she could and so i would like to thank her for that.

however i feel that i need to shed a bit more light on the extent to which my privacy and discretion was compromised and I also want to say that heidi was not at fault here it was purely lacey.

this lady forgot to take 2 items with her when she left. she also wanted me to book her the next night without going through heidi.

the two items are of no value and could easily be replaced. I threw the items away because they were messed with a substance that i did not want to keep in my room.

The trouble and demands for these items started when she realised that i did not want to book her again. infact a half hour after she left i messaged Heidi to say i want a different girl for the next night.

Lacey took this rejection to such levels as to trace all my information and made calls to my wife and to my personal assistant.

i had to get my lawyers involved for her to stop.

i do not blame heidi. as i said she had a crises of her own which demanded her attention. I have also mentioned that ive been using heidi for years and ive never had an issue untill now.

i would also like esa to please step into this matter if possible and verify every new post before it gets put onto this chat because lacey has threatened to reveal my identity on esa.

It was an unfortunate event but Heidi did try to help when she could.

Now that this matter is sorted esa is welcome to verify what i have said.

I would also like punters to know that heidi is not at fault and im sure the other ladies who work for her are better. infact i can vouch for a few of them.

its just lacey who is in someway a very troubled person and unfortunately caused alot of problems for no valid reason.

Looking in the forum and seeing the subject certainly got my attention.

About the only complaint one can put forward is cost, but you also get what you pay for. I can certainly say, that stating beware is OTT from my experience. Heidi has always been 100% professional as have her ladies. We have used the agency a few times and different ladies and all were great. Lacey we booked twice, and when we extended she checked with Heidi, no hidden agenda.

It was mentioned that 'classy' had used them for years but then warns people on this forum cause of this experience. Taking things to this extent doesnt add up and appears to be more of a hidden agenda.

Do with this as you will as a reader, but I would go with the majority here, NOTHING wrong with the agency.

He said she said they said we said

On 2018-01-11 17:38:47 suzook said:
He said she said they said we said

wait till some wg who is messed up and has contacts who can trace everything about you and starts calling your family and colleagues.

luckily for me im my own boss and my wife and i are separated. so I dont have much to worry about except being harrased and losing abit of my reputation.

For some high profile punters this could have been an absolute nightmare. Infact I think some punters would have paid her thousands to not make those calls.

who knows maybe some have and they just to scared to bring it up.