On 2018-04-04 21:53:02 Shenanigans said:
It's not cheating as long as she doesn't find out.

Truth Lol

Look, it is moot. More importantly, it does not matter whether it is cheating or not. The fact is, we can talk ourselves into any viewpoint that we want to.

The question is, are you going to do it? On that score, I say go for it. This is really not that big a deal. As long as you stay safe, keep your wife safe from any diseases and you don't get caught, punt away. Why deny yourself earthly pleasures in this short life?

On 2018-04-04 15:01:32 Vivian Lee said:


While on the topic, can anyone state to me where is there a law. or something that men can't have more than one woman. Not to marry, just to make one happy, who says it is wrong?

Vivian

Open relationships and polyamory are just two of the ways of doing ethical non monogamy. The law in most westernised countries doesn't generally allow for marriage to more than one person, but many people don't get married these days, and since the dawn of time humans have been known to need sexual variety. And historically speaking in many cultures it has always been known and accepted that men will have a mistress. Some wives will accept it without too much fuss as long as you are discreet and do not embarrass or humilate her with this. It's always been seen as less acceptable for a woman to do the same, yet many have and do.

We all have many partners in our lifetime.. Some of us have them one at a time, one after the other (serial monogamy).. Others prefer to have multiple partners at the same time. If there is no openness and honesty it's essentially cheating. When it's done with full honesty and consent of all involved, it's ethical non monogamy.

As to the original post, I view the amazing services offered by MG, WG and specialists (ie Dommes etc) to be a type of therapy. It can be healing and can fill needs or void that for whatever other reason is not being met.

As to how much information you share with your partner, they will be determined by your unique individual relationship and the agreements you have between you for how the two of you have decided together to work your particular connection.

Ok, apart from not being able to tell the whole truth about your "massage" consider this:

Anything that has the potential to make you visit your GP in secret to get a script for some antibiotics to fix whatever Little Willy has picked up, is cheating. Have you ever thought that she dips the same hand in or squeezes the trigger for lube with the same hand that she's done it for every other client? Personally I even stopped shaking hands to greet, because I am really not ok touching hands that just held another penis. (Ok, add some steroids to this thought: let's say Little Willy already shared the nasties with wifey- how are you going to get her meds in secret, or even worse, what if the meds don't work?)

Haven't you ever wondered what might be lurking in the towels or bedding that was dropped off by some stranger earlier? Imagine explaining to wifey where the creepy crawlies on your pubes came from....

And all above does not (necessarily) come from your "therapist" as she and her venue may be squeaky clean..... But as in the animal kingdom: where there's a herd or a flock at the same spot, there's bound to be a lot of shit as well....

And we all know that these are the risks, and the question is whether or not you are horny enough to take your chances. But to get back to the question: if explaining any of the above will land you in hot water with the Missus, then yip, it is cheating. If Little Willy was involved anywhere in the proces of planning, booking, or receiving, it's cheating. (And we all know it wasn't the big brain triggering the booking, lol)

My personal definition of cheating:

Cheating is when one partner indulges in ANY form of romantic, sensual, sexual stimulation or release with another person outside his/her relationship, WITHOUT THE EXPLICIT CONSENT of his/her partner and/or without ADVISING his/her partner beforehand of what he/she is about to indulge in.

This is regardless if money exchanges hands or not, regardless if it is merely online sex texting or video chat, regardless if it is simply a body slide, masturbation or pelvic massage.

ANY SENSUAL/SEXUAL/ROMANTIC ACTION that you are keeping secret from your partner, in my opinion IS CONSIDERED AS CHEATING on your partner.

On 2018-04-05 10:12:40 Sibyl said:
My personal definition of cheating:

Cheating is when one partner indulges in ANY form of romantic, sensual, sexual stimulation or release with another person outside his/her relationship, WITHOUT THE EXPLICIT CONSENT of his/her partner and/or without ADVISING his/her partner beforehand of what he/she is about to indulge in.

This is regardless if money exchanges hands or not, regardless if it is merely online sex texting or video chat, regardless if it is simply a body slide, masturbation or pelvic massage.

ANY SENSUAL/SEXUAL/ROMANTIC ACTION that you are keeping secret from your partner, in my opinion IS CONSIDERED AS CHEATING on your partner.

This is the truth and nothing but the truth .. no matter how we want to argue around it !!!

On 2018-04-05 10:12:40 Sibyl said:
My personal definition of cheating:

Cheating is when one partner indulges in ANY form of romantic, sensual, sexual stimulation or release with another person outside his/her relationship, WITHOUT THE EXPLICIT CONSENT of his/her partner and/or without ADVISING his/her partner beforehand of what he/she is about to indulge in.

This is regardless if money exchanges hands or not, regardless if it is merely online sex texting or video chat, regardless if it is simply a body slide, masturbation or pelvic massage.

ANY SENSUAL/SEXUAL/ROMANTIC ACTION that you are keeping secret from your partner, in my opinion IS CONSIDERED AS CHEATING on your partner.

You said it my lady!

In other words...

Dont punt if you are in a relationship.

Sound sales advice there...

;)

On 2018-04-05 15:37:51 Willy777 said:
In other words...

Dont punt if you are in a relationship.



;)

You are free to punt

what she doesn't know,it won't hurt her.

Tell your vrou you are going whoring tonight. You will know immediately if it is considered cheating.