On 2018-06-27 23:51:46 undercoverpta said:
Well I never.... To Be or not to be, that is the question .... Whether it is nobler to suffer in the mind the strings and arrows of ouraged .... let's just drop it before someone mistakes Shakespeare for some semi- indigineous African language......
Uncle Ben is surely fucked then with some of the archaic terms he bandies about!!! LOL
On 2018-06-27 20:43:57 jaykay96 said:
*English only. In the same way it is rude to speak an unknown language in front of a group of guests, the ESA forum is a public space shared by visitors of different cultures. You are welcome to use any language in Private Messages, but please use the one common language, English, on the forum. Non English posts will be locked or deleted.
Wow. Well:
1. I did not even know this
2. Where is the 'Error - incorrect language' message when clicking Submit to warn you first?
3. The rules state 'Non-English posts' which, if we want to be pedantic could translate to the entire post needs to be in a different language, not just one silly word.
4. If you 'break' this rule innocently (with one word) where is the 'gentle warning' first, before just banning?
5. If everyone got banned for silly mistakes repeatedly, and then left the forum, ESA might join the ranks of the other 'lesser' popular sites with a weak forum option - as there would be nobody left here.
6. Why am I tempted to type an Afrikaans word right now?
;)
Edited: 2018-06-28 09:14:48
On 2018-06-28 09:34:00 Burfi said:
I'm snitching on the 3 of you for not using the correct English spelling of Africaans!
Snitches get stitches bro... ;)
Edited: 2018-06-28 11:35:50
When my kids went to primary school (English Schools), they were not taught a 3rd language at all, only English and Afrikaans - this was after the end of Apartheid. I was surprised and upset that a 3rd African language was not compulsory. Imo if you are living in such a diverse country as South Africa, then you should at minimum at least be able to speak, read and write in 3 or more South African languages.
I read last year that government was finally going to introduce a compulsory 3rd South African language in primary schools. Has this actually been implemented already?
Whilst I can understand Esa's ruling that only English should be used - so that everyone can comprehend what is written - imo instead of suppression of languages, we should be celebrating our diversity and besides, there is always google translate...
Language is closely related to identity, so it is to be expected that aggrieved people will be now be pimping on each other and it is also to be expected that people with malicious intent will use the language policy as a weapon against others.
Edited: 2018-06-28 23:18:21
On 2018-06-28 10:41:15 Sibyl said:
When I was a child, during Apartheid, I attended Afrikaans schools, since I am Afrikaans. In primary school it was compulsory to learn English, Afrikaans and Sotho (the 3rd language offered based on the language spoken by the majority in the given province). In High School a 3rd Language was optional from grade 10 and I then chose German as my third Language.
When my kids went to primary school (English Schools), they were not taught a 3rd language at all, only English and Afrikaans - this was after the end of Apartheid. I was surprised and upset that a 3rd African language was not compulsory. Imo if you are living in such a diverse country as South Africa, then you should at minimum at least be able to speak, read and write in 3 or more South African languages.
I read last year that government was finally going to introduce a compulsory 3rd South African language in primary schools. Has this actually been implemented already?
Whilst I can understand Esa's ruling that only English should be used - so that everyone can comprehend what is written - imo instead of suppression of languages, we should be celebrating our diversity and besides, there is always google translate...
Language is closely related to identity, so it is to be expected that aggrieved people will be now be pimping on each other and it is also to be expected that people with malicious intent will use the language policy as a weapon against others.
Thank you Kimmy Lee for starting this thread, you have no idea how much you have inspired me with my studies and learning.
Thank you Sibyl, your comments are always informative and constructive.
I totally agree. I grew up in the apartheid era in the Eastern Cape, so we were taught English, Afrikaans and Xhosa at primary school. Then in High School, in Std 6 Xhosa was replaced with learning Latin. I wish they had just kept teaching me Xhosa.
In post apartheid education systems most schools only offer English and Afrikaans. It's very sad that our children are not given an option to study any of our other official languages. When learning a new language you automatically immerse yourself in the culture and traditions behind the language, which cultivates a greater understanding of the people behind the language.
Aside from that here are some interesting reads
www.babbel.com/en/magazine/the-10-most-spoken-languages-in-the-world/
businesstech.co.za/news/general/104497/the-most-spoken-languages-in-south-africa/
www.rypeapp.com/blog/easiest-languages-to-learn
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers
On this last link, its amazing to see the difference between native English speakers (L1) and those that speak English as a second language (L2).
Arz
On 2018-06-28 06:18:36 Burfi said:
Must say tho, I'll shit my pants if Skyler says nigerian drugdealer pidgeon english is allowed!
Tho - though
Pidgeon - pidgin
Seems like bad English is allowed!
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