I love punting. But now I feel guilty. Why can't it just be seen for what it is?
(1 x horny guy) + (1 x willing, wet and wonderful woman) = 1 mutually fulfilling hour.
For whatever reason.

@Doc63 I fully agree with you!

On 2018-07-06 14:38:35 Doc63 said:
I love punting. But now I feel guilty. Why can't it just be seen for what it is?
(1 x horny guy) + (1 x willing, wet and wonderful woman) = 1 mutually fulfilling hour.
For whatever reason.

because that is rarely the case buddy , I have hand for when I am horny , but my hand cant massage my back and its not very great for conversation

Arizona has a point. I definitely will not even fight against it. A lady knows her "value" and we have to respect that. For whatever reason she is in the industry.

Thank you for sharing Arizona. Made me think.

On 2018-07-06 07:39:17 therodent said:
JJsoap, you got it all wrong. Firstly, you assumed more than what was said in my other post. I am not saying that the ladies are overpriced, I said in my other post in response to Tough Times for working girls that perhaps the girls up north should reduce their prices to get through the tough times and at least make a few bookings or take a trip down to Cape Town where the market has not yet reached saturation. I am not cash strapped that I cannot dip my lolly as you so eloquently put it but I know a good few punters that are. Once again you assumed that.

secondly, I am agreeing 100% with what Arizona says especially with "When a man punts, he is taking money and spending it on his own needs, self gratification and his pleasure, instead of spending it on his children or spending time with his children. Money can't buy time.." This goes to the point I raised about where a guy will not punt if he does not have the means as the easiest way to tighten the belt is by cutting on luxuries, and lately the economy has strained a lot of people out there so they choose to eat and pay their bills rather than punt. And that is where I relate to Arizona's second statement "There is a huge difference between a need to fulfil "Desire" and a need to fulfil Purpose"

It's tough out there for all concerned both punter and WG and it's difficult to near impossible for all to maintain the status quo so there needs to be some sort of change to accommodate everyone and I made a few suggestions. It's up to the punter and the working girl if they feel it's worthy suggestions or they can move on to the next idea or whatever. It's really of no concern to me either way.

Fortunately for the ladies , an addict will always find the cash. Experience speaks

Great post Ari!

Sadly there are a few girls who don't realise their value and a few I had to encourage a couple of times to increase their prices. One beautiful blonde only charged me R500 an hour. I always tipped her well tho and told her to increase be becoz she was selling herself short. It took s year and a half before she increased her price to R850. But still she can increase to R1000+. Also another lovely brunette only charges me only R600 but I told her also she is too pretty to ask anything less than R1000.

A few ladies realised their worth when they moved to more popular venues, like Tia & Tessa from MountainView who the charged R500. Both ended up at HOE with new names and the rest is history.


Personally, like I stated on the previous threads, I have my own sliding scale for decision making and base my punting decisions on such. I'll choose not to negotiate but I assess whether I'm willing to pay the amount a lady charges based on looks body etc with a personal limit of R2500. Some ladies who undervalue themselves I tip well. Price has no bearing on quality of service delivery tho. A budget priced girl can easily out perform a premium priced girl in my experience. Hence my sliding scale method that works for me.

But but but! A LADY CAN AND MUST CHARGE WHATEVER THE HELL SHE WISHES!!

On 2018-07-06 19:37:57 Burfi said:
Great post Ari!

But but but! A LADY CAN AND MUST CHARGE WHATEVER THE HELL SHE WISHES!!

True, all depends on how badly she needs the money

Arz, I agree with the thread, in terms of value and sacrifice from the WG and i for one will never negotiate. (i didnt open the link)

But please don't guilt trip all men, you have no idea why some gents/dads punt, even if you think you do.

This post was not about "guilt tripping" anyone. I do apologise if it made you feel that way, it was not my intention.

We are all here for our own personal reasons. I am very grateful that I have clients that need and use my services, or I would not be here or have been able to support my family.

I posted this because I am annoyed by all the threads that have been popping up recently expecting the ladies to reduce their fees, offer discounts and what we should be doing to benefit the punter's because "times are tough".

Times are tough for everyone!

I charge a fee. Respect that! It is not up to you as the client to decide what you pay me or any other lady in this business.

Aside from the threads on the forum about negotiating fees. There seems to be a new trend with the punters.

They make an appointment at the agreed upon rates, and then arrive for the appointment and say "Sorry, I only have R300 on me?"

I am sorry, but that is just so disrespectful and demeaning towards the ladies. How do you think the ladies feel when they are already in this industry and a punter comes a long treats them that way! It's like you are saying she isn't worthy of the value she has placed on herself. Do you realise the psychological effects that has on a lady?

Arz

Dear Arizona

I am shocked by the situation you decribed!!! Absolute disrespectful amd demeaning to the ladies

To me the industry average is between R800-900 an hour at this point in time. I can say for certain that most if not all the ladies I have had the privilege to be with is worth much more than that. In truth, how do you put a monetary value on a person?

I for one will never try to negiotiate the price down. If I can't afford the price I simply don't punt until I can afford to do so.