On 2019-10-04 19:39:46 Tegwane said:
On 2019-10-04 16:36:14 Steph94 said: cime wise,London and New York is just as dangerous as Johannesburg. These statistics although overwhelming, take so many things into consideration and that's what youneed to remember before making a foregone conclusion about your safety. South Africa has plenty of safe neighbourhoods and people can get around fine all of their life they you are always aware of their surroundings and not ending up in dodge places.....just like anywhere in the world. And just to add, South Africa is NOT the second most dangerous country in the world. If you look at the peace index vs the population, It's not even in the top 10. Afganistan,Syria, South Sudan,Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Russia, Pakistan, and Turkey are the most dangerous countries in the world. I always say never look at one thing and ignore the other. We have the most beautiful country in the world and I'm sure many of those who have travelled abroad can back me up. Yes, our country has so much potential, there is corruption, there is this and there is that, but the way people are so negative you'd swear these things are happening here only. I appreciate the post not made not so long ago where everyone shared great things about this country.
Nonsense, there have been 100 killings in London this year, that is a bad weekend in SA
Those ten places you mention are fucking war zones
We'll like I said, We speak of what we read, hear or learn. Some "reputable" publication can release stats saying there have been 100 murders in London, and 6000 murders in Johannesburg. But what if these numbers are made up to push an agenda? It's not like there haven't been cases where reputable sources have been exposed for lying.
On 2019-10-04 20:42:26 Steph94 said:
And thank you for making my point. How can South Africa even be considered more dangerous than a place where bombs are exploding lol. Thre aren't bombs exploding in every country, but majority of the countries in the world have crimes such as rape and murder. And how do they rank them? Here's a simple example (And my numbers aren't accurate), there are 3 million people in Johannesburg and there has been 200 000 reported murders. New York has 5 million people, but they have had 400 000 reported murders. Oh look, South Africa is more dangerous than New York. This is the logic being used here because you have to factor in the number of people living there vs the reported incidents
You make a point, however, everyone I know in SA has been affected by crime, robbery hijacking, armed robbery etc etc. Here in the UK maybe 10% of the people I know have been affected by crime, so it's not numbers but people. In the early 70's the figures in SA were similar. I was starting to become aware in the early 70's hence my starting point
Edited: 2019-10-04 23:29:55
Meaning, for every 100 000 people in south africa 34 people will be murdered, and for every 100 000 people in the USA 5.3 people will be murdered and for every 100 000 people in the UK only 1.2 peeple will be murdered. And pretty much the safest country in the world, Japan (more than double the population of RSA) has a murder rate of 0.28 murders per 100 000 people. BTW, this is the latest stats for 2019. Johannesburg is almost half the population of New york, more than 2000 people were murdered in 2018 in Johannesburg and only 281 people was murdered during that same time in New York. London is same size as New york and had 131 murders in 2018. Are you still thinking RSA is not dangerous?
No, there are no agendas, these are facts and was verified by international organisations i.e UN. Until you can't provide evidence to the contrary, you are talking BS!
Do you really think RSA is thee most beautiful country in the world? You talk like someone who has never traveled anywhere like in ever. You should try it sometime, it will open your eyes, RSA looks like a shithole with a few beauty spots compared to the rest of the world. I've been to 53 countries already and counting.
On 2019-10-04 23:27:33 ssurfer said:
@Steph94 you are talking BS!!!! RSA is one of the top 10 countries in the world with the highest murder rates, including countries where there is war at the moment, with none of them in the top 10. The only person whith an agenda is you. Crime stats are always standardised and given as per capita. That capita is usually per 100 000 people. This is done so that you can compare all the countries with each other.
Meaning, for every 100 000 people in south africa 34 people will be murdered, and for every 100 000 people in the USA 5.3 people will be murdered and for every 100 000 people in the UK only 1.2 peeple will be murdered. And pretty much the safest country in the world, Japan (more than double the population of RSA) has a murder rate of 0.28 murders per 100 000 people. BTW, this is the latest stats for 2019. Johannesburg is almost half the population of New york, more than 2000 people were murdered in 2018 in Johannesburg and only 281 people was murdered during that same time in New York. London is same size as New york and had 131 murders in 2018. Are you still thinking RSA is not dangerous?
No, there are no agendas, these are facts and was verified by international organisations i.e UN. Until you can't provide evidence to the contrary, you are talking BS!
Do you really think RSA is thee most beautiful country in the world? You talk like someone who has never traveled anywhere like in ever. You should try it sometime, it will open your eyes, RSA looks like a shithole with a few beauty spots compared to the rest of the world. I've been to 53 countries already and counting.
I like how you presume I don't travel. 53 countries and you're still here? that's cute haha. Look here buddy, what grates my tits is people who are always moaning about everything in this country yet glorify other countries when they face the same issues. From corruption, to crime(Which hasn't gotten any worse than pre-democracy if I must add), to "oh they want free education",to BEE, and to strikes. Hong Kong was at a standstill because of the striking happening there. In Germany, people marched for free education. Corruption is everywhere and even here, it didn't start with Zuma and the ANC. I'm not saying just because these countries have these issues, that it's okay for us to have them too. We as a nation should unite and fix things rather than bash our country and always harbour negative feelings. We can do without people with this kind of mentality because they're not adding any value. I'm not a fan of American people, but what I admire about the yanks is how patriotic they really are about their country. And thank you for bringing all these crime stats to make your point well done buddy.
My parting words to you is If you haven't been, Add Bonaire to the list and make it 55 countries. Part of the ABC Islands. I was there in February and for me its absolute paradise. I still rank South Africa up there with Cape Town being the most beautiful city in the world.
*Edit* Sorry, wrong thread.
On 2019-10-04 18:42:27 Johnny English said:
Echo your sentiments, Steph94, well said.
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1Not even the vi0olence, crime, corruption, fraud, xenophobia and ect can convince me otherwise
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On 2019-10-04 18:14:59 Steph94 said:
On 2019-10-04 17:41:49 Inquisitive1 said: I didn't think there would be 1 person who hasn't been touched by crime, nevermind millions. But I do agree, people tend to make things a lot worse than what it really is.
True. It's always made a lot worse than it really is. People with a lot of power can manipulate everything down to the way people think. Your governments, your statisticians, your big corporates. If you are fed something, with the right propaganda, you start believing.
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