On 2022-01-15 10:18:47 Tobago said:
On 2022-01-14 21:44:17 JP82 said: Meanwhile, the latest anti-vaxxer covid "cure" is to drink (and/or snort) their own urine.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/anti-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinformation

We didn't get our asses kicked, we've just realised that you lot are too stupid to reason with, so stopped trying.
Great response JP82.
We're tired of engaging in a battle of wits with unarmed men!!!
When you learn to read properly and UNDERSTAND and APPLY statistics, I might consider engaging with you.

To add onto what JP82 and tobago wrote the responses from the anti vaxxers isn't conducive to bringing someone straddling the fence onto their side. I went through the entire thread to make an example about the credibility of the sources from both sides.

Anti Vax
www.westernjournal.com - founded 2008 blacklisted by google and apple news due to disinformation in 2017 (before covid)

thepalmierireport.com - launched in 2016. Described by David Greenberg a historian and professor of history as well as of journalism & media studies at Rutgers University as a "junk news site" . Label a fake news site by Columbia Journalism Review and The Intercept. I could actually go on. Arguably the least trusted source to bring up in modern times

leohohmann.com - this is a website by a journalist named Leo Hohmann. I can't get an article earlier than november 3rd 2021. He works for worldnetdaily, a site thats been accused by the southern poverty law center of "anti-government conspiracy theories, gay-bashing, anti-Muslim propaganda, and End Times prophecy"

remnantnewspaper.com - a traditionalist Catholic site has been in publication since 1967 Described by the southern poverty law center as an "organization(s)that embrace anti-Semitism and whose theology is typically rejected by the Vatican and mainstream Catholics in general."

Wsau.com - this is the website of a radio station not a news publication site

Tagesspiegel.de - its in german so I can't verify what is written

Texasgopvote.com - earliest article published may 7th 2009 also has nothing to do with covid its an article that speculate that a man, who was trying to make a connection between prescribe drugs of murderers and the act of murder they commit, was assassinated

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov - National Center for Biotechnology Information - first article was not an anti vax article second had nothing to do with covid but other vaccines but its a credicle source

www.ecdc.europa.eu/ - European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control - once again not an article discouraging vaccination but a credible source

Washington post - founded December 6th 1877 reputable source but not an article discouraging vaccinations

I24news.com - founded july 17th 2013 in the article the isreali prime minister Naftali Bennett encourages parents to vaccinate kids and companies to allow employees to work remotely so Im not sure if its anti vax

Newsweek.com - founded February 17th 1933 though the article doesn't discourage vaccinations its a credible news site

Abc.net.au - Australian broadcast corporation founded july 1st 1932 I'll give you credit on this source its actually reliable

Yournews.com cant find anything about this site

Globalistagenda.org can't find anything about this site

Speakaboutnews.com cant find anything about this site earliest article date back to january 24th 2013

Dailyexpose.uk cant find anything about this site earliest article date back to november 22nd 2020

Theburningmanplatform.com cant find anything about this site earliest article date back to august 2010

Social media and video sharing sites
Rumble.com
Twitter.com
Youtube.com

Pro Vax
The guardian - founded 5 may 1821 won national newspaper of the year 4 times by the british press awards

News24 - founded october 1998 based in cape town, johannesburg, port Elizabeth, durban, pretoria with a team of approximately 100 journalists

Reuters - founded october 1851 who employ over 2000 journalists in 196 news bureaux in about 130 countries

Iol.com (independent online) - serves as online versions of various publications namely :The Star founded january 6th 1887, Pretoria news founded 1898 (they've received journalism awards from the national press club and SA sports awards), The mercury founded 1852, Diamond fields advertisers founded march 23rd 1878, Cape Argus founded 1857, Independent on saturday founded 1998, the sunday independent founded 1995

Apnews.com - association press founded in may 22nd 1846 winner of 54 Pulitzer prizes

The Atlantic - founded november 1st 1857

Point I'm trying to make is pro vaxxers reference award winning sources that have been in publication for 27 - 175 years and employ a number of journalists whereas anti vaxxers post youtube and twitter links along with recently founded sites that aren't reliable or are run by sole individuals with an agenda. I will credit the links that have been posted about statistics regarding infections but that isn't enough

On 2022-01-15 16:30:56 Merlot said:
On 2022-01-15 14:21:56 oraljim said: On 2022-01-15 14:03:56 Sunnymike said: I'm vaxxed, how did I get my butt kicked?
You didn't. But the wild_one crowd are children who have been ignored by mommy too long and crave constant attention. That's what 9/10 of this thread has been about - pitiful cries for attention from people who have only the most tenuous grasp on reality. When you stop feeding them they start getting more desperate. So just keep ignoring them - eventually they will go away as the gradual decline of this thread proves.

Yeah, there is no pill for "stupid" ....

Hold on, all is not lost, there's the new (covid) pill proudly brought to you by Pfizer !

On 2022-01-15 16:57:32 Jimbob31 said:
On 2022-01-15 16:04:40 Johnny English said: On 2022-01-15 15:58:10 Jimbob31 said: On 2022-01-15 15:47:34 Johnny English said: twitter.com/Ambulate666/status/1482058809099321345

www.google.com/amp/s/medika.life/fact-checking-geert-vanden-bossche-cashing-in-on-covid-misinformation/amp/

Oh, and here we were thinking that it was only Pfizer cashing in with their vaccine/covid misinformation ! A mere $36 billion profit in 2021 by all accounts !

Don't lie Johnny. You're not capable of "thinking". All you do is regurgitate the latest online conspiracy you've stumbled across. If you could think, you'd at the very least show some ability to discern complete bullshit from reality.

In April 2021, Pfizer CEO, Albert Bourla was talking about 93% efficacy for their miracle "vaccines".
However in January 2022, Albie boy was saying that 2 doses offer limited protection, if any, but 3 doses offer "reasonable protection" and reassured his flock that the new version of their shot that will cover Omicron will be ready in March.
Jimbob, you sound stressed, brah. They say that pine needle tea and red clover with dandelion and burdock root may help for the blood and kefir milk for that discomfort in your gut. And to help you sleep better at night, 2 drops of cannabis oil is recommended.

This is what started this virus thread :

On 2021-12-01 07:47:26 Sylvia said:
Just to let you know who are interested. 87% hospitalized on the new virus were all UNVACCINATED!!!! Looky Looky Wild thing. Have a good day you all. s

And 6 weeks later, as Djokovic awaits his appeal and probable deportation, we hear sh!t like this :


16 of the 20 covid deaths in NSW over the last 24 hours were vaccinated ie. 80% were vaccinated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-15/nsw-records-20-deaths-48768-new-covid-cases/100758518

Jiminy cricket ! Bob's your uncle !

It's time to admit it :

swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/

And as for the blue grape and the spud, I'm not tired .....
It's the Alpha to the Omega !

I agree with the sentiment that we are encouraging idiots to perpetuate their bullshit but... I just fear that some fence sitters will swallow it.
@Dicktator. Thanks for the valuable research, let's hope that those who are wavering will use it as a reference.

Those that don't vaccinate cannot travel.

Perhaps a simple arithmetic lesson would help???
There are 100 people on an island 80% of them... (I.e 80 people) are vaccinated and 20% (I.e. 20 people) are not.
20% of the vaccinated people got covid (I.e. 16 people) and 50% of the unvaccinated got covid, I.e 10 people.
So total people with covid is 26 people.
JE and his fellow conspirators will tell you that 62% OF PEOPLE ON AN ISLAND WHO GOT COVID WERE VACCINATED!!!! Which is true... but reflects their total lack of understanding of basic arithmetic and statistics...

I reiterate.
When the vaccines were introduced, no claims were made that they were 100% effective. If I recall the highest claim was around 77% efficacy. AND YES, the efficacy diminishes as the virus mutates, which is why it mutates.
So stop already with crap that vaccines are totally ineffective because 23% of vaccinated people get infected.

On 2022-01-16 10:05:27 Potatoejetguy said:
Those that don't vaccinate cannot travel.

Absolutely and I think the ladies should introduce a health pass for their services...