Yes, this is totally unacceptable!

But yesterday, i saw a WG first time. I could sense she is worried about payment when we started. So i said to her, "can i pay you and then you can relax".
So i paid the full R1600 upfront for GFE.
Then during the session, i learnt she don't do bj...
And in the end there was no FH either, just a HJ.
I felt she should have offered me R400 back, as that is her price for massage only. I would in any case probably not have accepted a (full) refund, but i think that would have been the right gesture?

But it is this kind of thing, i think, which make punters not eager to pay upfront...

I always pay up-front.
I have no problem with it.

On 2022-03-04 14:17:34 Vrik said:
Yes, this is totally unacceptable!

But yesterday, i saw a WG first time. I could sense she is worried about payment when we started. So i said to her, "can i pay you and then you can relax".
So i paid the full R1600 upfront for GFE.
Then during the session, i learnt she don't do bj...
And in the end there was no FH either, just a HJ.
I felt she should have offered me R400 back, as that is her price for massage only. I would in any case probably not have accepted a (full) refund, but i think that would have been the right gesture?

But it is this kind of thing, i think, which make punters not eager to pay upfront...

Sorry to hear that my sweet cakes, however with me you have no worries at all you pay for the hour, and you get exactly what you pay for. Nothing changes, what I offer you get xxx I have no hidden costs and my services and fees are stated very clearly

I pay the way the lady likes it, I don't understand what the issue about upfront is

Now comes the part where you count the money in front of the client and the amount is short. I simply, respectfully return the money and show him the door. It's super embarrassing

Name and shame him because if it was a wg we would want to know.

always collect up front

On 2022-03-04 17:26:27 KICKASS said:
Name and shame him because if it was a wg we would want to know.

always collect up front

This is fair but remember the risk isn't the same between both parties. If she humiliates some looney he could plan something ugly using new contact details. He's already malicious enough to consciously cheat the SP of her money. She's probably reported him on the ladies forum, and that's the safest option.

Sorry you had to go through this shit Ms Le Roux. I generally do associate upfront payment demands with bad bookings (it's the common denominator in all my worst bookings), but I completely understand if an SP wants it upfront and I don't actually mind. It's a charming gesture when she allows it to be paid after, but unfortunately it does get abused. I will say being tipsy on pussy has lead to me giving some silly tips when paying after lol, but it's not the driving factor, just funny how often the two go hand-in-hand.

On 2022-03-04 17:43:01 modnarmodnar said:


Sorry you had to go through this shit Ms Le Roux. I generally do associate upfront payment demands with bad bookings (it's the common denominator in all my worst bookings), but I completely understand if an SP wants it upfront and I don't actually mind.

I agree. Our preferences are a reaction to our experiences, and it's a shame but understandable that everyone is trying to do what's safest for them from both sides

Gonna chirp in here. Fisrt Vrik you should have discussed what service was on offer before you paid, thats a lotta bucks for just hj, maybe she didnt wanna give you fh for some reason, i dont know. Secondly miss le roux you must always get cash counted in front of them FIRST you been in the business long enough and i cant believe you never had it happen before now. Many guys will try an short pay, oh sorry i thought i had enough on me"blah blah. you can count yourself very lucky if this is the first or second time its happened to you, i am very surprised. You gotta be only one taking cash AFTER service. If reg then you know him an always pays after then different story, but newbees never ever after any session do you take money after. s

On 2022-03-04 16:01:38 Ms Le Roux said:
On 2022-03-04 14:17
... and you get exactly what you pay for. Nothing changes

Can't agree.
Last time I saw you I got MORE than I paid for :)))

I assume you did give twiddle dum and dee a heads up and an opportunity to rectify? While it should not happen, back in 2019 I short paid due to a counting error!! I usually pay up front, but she did not count it at the time. Fortunately we knew each other so she told me and i could fix (and paid R200 to make up for the R100 I slipped up on)
So what I am saying is one should not take offense if she counts, but innocent errors do happen.
Guess we are back to relationships and communication