Navigation
JoJo52
JoJo52 - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
14 Feb 2016
Posts to Date: 32
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-20 22:45:34
Edited: 2024-06-20 22:47:27

One major problem in this situation is the unbridled efforts of our major media to create sensation. Even the esteemed SG on SAFM falls prey to this. A hint of instability or friction and endless probing interviews follow; rather like a dentist drilling for a nerve.
I am still hopeful - I believe RB too - that positives can lie ahead.
We wanted change; we got it at the polls; not everyone's ideal (perhaps no-one's..) but a shift from 30 years of status quo. Now we must hope that jointly they will make a go of it.
Gift of the Givers founder Imtiaz Sooliman was asked on radio yesterday what he thought was needed to make the GNU work. His answer; "Simple - NO EGOS." Ain't that the truth!
Actually he feels we now have only a Government of Selective Unity - and it can't claim to be National until all the major vote-winners are persuaded on board. And there's that ego question again!!

Vrik
Vrik - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Gold Member
Joined:
10 Feb 2019
Posts to Date: 2488
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 07:14:38

Agree Jolo!

What concerns me though, is that EFF/MK becomes the official opposition. They will have all the interest in the world to drive a wedge into the GNU.
And any short term costs in the adjustment process will be used to say the GNU policies are bad.

I have no doubt that there will be some shift to the "lets try the Zim option" ala EFF/MK. Just hope it is not a big shift and GNU can deliver.


Another good development might be that we moving to a 2 party system. Over time all in the GNU forms one centre party...
And the EFF/MK destroyers another single party.
Tarzann
Tarzann - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
14 Jun 2024
Posts to Date: 5
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 08:35:15

These parties should all have ESA accounts because they fuck us all
JoJo52
JoJo52 - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
14 Feb 2016
Posts to Date: 33
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 08:59:53
Edited: 2024-06-21 09:01:06

On 2024-06-21 07:14:38 Vrik said:

Another good development might be that we moving to a 2 party system. Over time all in the GNU forms one centre party...
And the EFF/MK destroyers another single party.



This raises another important matter that the authorities (incl. IEC) should address before next round of elections. TOO MANY PARTIES!
Of the 52 on the National Ballot only 18 made it to parliament; what a waste of energy and resources! And an unnecessary dilution of the actual vote, combined with confusion and disaffection for potential voters.
And then of those 18: 3 hold only 1 seat and 5 hold 2 seats.
What difference can they make to changing the future of the country - other than to vote where the biggest personal incentive for them lies? Another inherent fuckup.
We need legislation of some sort to cut out the mickey mouse players and allow a more robust contest.
Russian Bridgitte
Russian Bridgitte - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Advertiser
Joined:
3 Jun 2015
Posts to Date: 11504
  View Profile  
Posted: 2024-06-21 09:07:54

Yep JoJo52

Dilution 100%.

These mickey mouse players get elected as MP's get paid a serious cushy salary for being an MP doing very little or nothing at all.


Tax payers money that could be put to better use.

RB.
J_J
J_J - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
1 Jan 2023
Posts to Date: 479
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 09:45:42

I completely disagree. Hope we never ever come to a 2 party country. The smaller parties add more colours to the rainbow, and increases our representation. It is quite clear that due to low voter turnout, that we still don't have parties that represent everyone.

The value af small parties are that they can bring private bills to Parliament in relation to the constituencies they serve, especially if your issue is not mainstream yet. They may fail, but it provides a good reflection of where society views fall.

Views of people being useless and diluting etc is just disrespectful to the electorate and the reason why you don't want this kind of polarisation (which normally comes with 2 part states ... it's us or them or they the useless bunch who don't vote ... and more default to the useless bunch over time).

Now anyone want to start a sex worker party. We just need one seat in the next election. And then we can fuck all the other parties .... (figuratively, and literally if you wish).
J_J
J_J - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
1 Jan 2023
Posts to Date: 480
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 09:48:04

Democracy is better when even minorities wield power and can sit a the same table as the majority. Otherwise we really just have 2 dictators fighting with each other.
Russian Bridgitte
Russian Bridgitte - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Advertiser
Joined:
3 Jun 2015
Posts to Date: 11505
  View Profile  
Posted: 2024-06-21 10:02:14
Edited: 2024-06-21 10:29:27

Disrespectful J_J?

No. It IS unacceptable because nobody has the balls to be truthful about the crap in this country and until such time people learn to be the good citizens they supposed to be we will suffer at the hands of the elitist corrupt and the mickey mouse crap that should have no place when it comes to addressing true longterm sustainability for the good of country and people .

What I find disrespectful is the audicity of many who dare not call a spade a fucking shovel for, THAT is exactly what it is.

RB.
J_J
J_J - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Basic Member
Joined:
1 Jan 2023
Posts to Date: 481
View Profile
Posted: 2024-06-21 12:37:53

On 2024-06-21 10:02:14 Russian Bridgitte said:
Disrespectful It IS unacceptable because nobody has the balls to be truthful about the crap in this country and until such time people learn to be the good citizens they supposed to be we will suffer at the hands of the elitist corrupt and the mickey mouse crap that should have no place when it comes to addressing true longterm sustainability for the good of country and people .

RB.



That sounds like an 'elitist' to me. Whose truth RB?
Russian Bridgitte
Russian Bridgitte - Re: Elections!!!
Re: Elections!!!
Advertiser
Joined:
3 Jun 2015
Posts to Date: 11511
  View Profile  
Posted: 2024-06-21 14:15:33

On 2024-06-21 12:37:53 J_J said:
On 2024-06-21 10:02:14 Russian Bridgitte said: Disrespectful It IS unacceptable because nobody has the balls to be truthful about the crap in this country and until such time people learn to be the good citizens they supposed to be we will suffer at the hands of the elitist corrupt and the mickey mouse crap that should have no place when it comes to addressing true longterm sustainability for the good of country and people .

RB.

That sounds like an 'elitist' to me. Whose truth RB?




That which South Africans have lived the last 30 years my dearest J_J.

Or

Which one of us is missing something here and defensive of elitist corruption and truths neither you or I are privileged not to worry about?



RB.

Reply

You must be logged in to post on this forum. Basic Membership is free and it only takes a minute to sign up. Alternatively, if you are already a member, please log in. You will be automatically returned to this page.

Legend


Hover mouse over icons for description

Back to Previous Page
For the best browsing experience, rotate your tablet horizontal.