On 2016-08-11 09:57:48 HeavenOnEarth said:
J-Man -Sounds like a Bond Movie -- Did our Security have an ear piece as well ???

Sorry to say Factually --Our Security Guards are there to ensure that our Ladies & Clients have a Comfortable feeling while at HOE -- Not to SPY on anyone -- For what purpose would they Follow You around-- " Everyone is Welcome at HOE " we have great Food & our drink prices are very reasonable --

TRUE -- that unfortunately All our Ladies have their Racial preferences -- An Individual Choose from their side Not Ours . Yes we do Respect it --

Sorry if You felt Un-Welcome is that is Not our Intent at All

086-118-8825

As a matter of fact he did lol. Would you have me describe to you what he looked like as well??? Just so you know it was the tall skinny one with dark hair. You probably know who I'm talking about.

I'm not trying to bash your establishment just merely pointing out my experience. I mean when the owner/manager of the place can't even greet you it speaks volumes for what the venue is like. Maybe all your staff just need to be more hospitable. Not referring to your ladies because one them actually greeted me.

Its a shame this issue always comes up. Offcourse as a guy, its not at all nice going to a venue and seeing load of beautiful women - whom you cannot have. These ladies have every right to choose whom they see. I've never been to HOE, I am planning to go sometime soon-I'm not a regular punter, maybe two/three times in a year. Everywoman has her preferences - and they do compromise so often to please the punter. Spend time talking to them and put yourself in their shoes, and you realise if it were you... you'd have way more restrictions. They provide a very personal service. Surely its their right to decide whom they'd like to spend time with. As men we want the women that we find most attractive, but if she doesn't want then we have to respect that. I agree it may be humiliating/infuriating/ and most of all ego sapping. Tell the woman or women they look gorgeous, be friendly and polite and leave.

To whoever is responding to this thread on behalf of HOE - your first response was respectful and it kind of gave off the impression that customer satisfaction and reputation matter to you. From there on, they are just downright condescending towards the poeople who want to support your establishment, but feel unwelcome due to their first hand experience.

You dismissing Lalita's posts due to the information being 2nd hand is moot. Posters have given you their first hand experience at HOE and you dismiss them like you didn't welcome the money they spent at HOE.

I also don't understand the population argument like this is not South Africa where the majority are black. Unless Pretoria East is in some gated community where only a select few make it past the entrance.

Anyway, just expressing my view.

Black Sparrow its not a demographics issue! Its an issue about the right ladies have to chose just like you and everyone else has the right to chose! Get used to it, ITS NEVER EVER EVER GOING TO CHANGE! DEAL WITH IT!

On 2016-08-11 15:13:16 Alcapo said:
Black Sparrow its not a demographics issue! Its an issue about the right ladies have to chose just like you and everyone else has the right to chose! Get used to it, ITS NEVER EVER EVER GOING TO CHANGE! DEAL WITH IT!

Well then they should clearly state on their profiles that they are not multi-racial as some Wg's do. I wasn't even there to see one of the white ladies to be honest.

It just feels like the people inside decide who you get to see. You don't even get to hear it from the ladies themselves.

@Black Sparrow I agree with you 100%. I was merely describing my experience and I get ridiculed and told I'm describing something out of a 'Bond movie'. Really???

Oh give it a rest now ffs

[QUOTE;545973;J-man] Had the same experience. Got there, the lady that got me at my car showed me around but one of the security guys was constantly around reporting back to someone. Felt like I was a criminal to be honest. Anyway paid the admission, had a drink, got the list of the ladies that were available. Surprisingly none of
the ladies I had the urge to see were available and only a handful
were going to be available 3-4
hours after I got there. Had my
drink, tipped the waiter and left.[QUOTE]

Lol, Agent 47 in the parking lot probably radioed inside "code red, quick, hide the good stuff!" That's why
nobody was available and the
likelihood that you will wait around for 3 hours is slim to none.

Jokes aside, I maintain that while
you cannot make a lady cater to
you, management should not beat
around the bush either. I'd rather be told upfront that this is not going to work out for me.

On 2016-08-11 16:07:47 eziguy said:
[QUOTE;545973;J-man] Had the same experience. Got there, the lady that got me at my car showed me around but one of the security guys was constantly around reporting back to someone. Felt like I was a criminal to be honest. Anyway paid the admission, had a drink, got the list of the ladies that were available. Surprisingly none of
the ladies I had the urge to see were available and only a handful
were going to be available 3-4
hours after I got there. Had my
drink, tipped the waiter and left.[QUOTE]

Lol, Agent 47 in the parking lot probably radioed inside "code red, quick, hide the good stuff!" That's why
nobody was available and the
likelihood that you will wait around for 3 hours is slim to none.

Jokes aside, I maintain that while
you cannot make a lady cater to
you, management should not beat
around the bush either. I'd rather be told upfront that this is not going to work out for me.

Lol my weapon was conceiled the whole time(it's not that big). Doesn't shoot blanks but it's pretty harmless hehe.

Even chitchat has a right of admission policy? Wow... The security guy is doing a very good job here. I wonder what happens when he catches a lady speaking to a person of colour? Hahaha

Honesty, I see where management is coming from. (Unless this is a lie and they are pushing the agenda) In such a case their hands are tied, although then I agree with eziguy, they need to state that black people shouldn't come.

And then there's this doos.

On 2016-08-11 16:05:16 Panty_Dropper said:
Oh give it a rest now ffs

I don't know who died and made him forum king. We are having a civilised conversation dealing with our ratings of a venue and then comes the queen of England to dictate to us. If you don't like the discussion, just move on, no one's holding a gun to you.