Expectations are create both ways, some guys offering big money for extras and some ladies offering extras, freebies for a good rating.

In most cases it is the ladies that suffer from these reckless behavior. I once again plead with fellow punters to very carefully consider their reviews.

"Don't kiss and tell". What happens between the 4 walls should stay there or maybe if you lucky continue in the shower.

The details should not be discussed on here.

On 2017-05-18 11:34:59 gary_g said:
How much attention do people really pay to the 'Top 10'? I never even bother to look, because there has been so much controversy over the years about people gaming the system.

I prefer to look at the adverts, read the reviews, note the opinions that I have agreed with in the past, and discount reviews that look suspicious.

As to my own reviews, I never punt under my forum name, and never ask for anything other than the honest service offered. Where I review, it is almost always because the service was exceptional...good or bad. I think quite a few regular reviewers feel exactly the same as I do. And if you are honest in your actions, if you are offered something extra beyond the agreed services, you have the satisfaction of knowing that the offer is genuine.

So are there scandalous doings in Purpleland? Maybe, but with minimal effort in really has no impact, at least for me.

Agreed and kudos to you for your honesty in your dealings with us on and off ESA.

What few realize, is that beyond what you perceive, we live in a very different world with a different perspective! Reviews are good, never disputed that! It's the rating system and the top ten that causes so much animosity in an industry that is rife with jelousy and plain ugly when it comes to competition, in houses, bedrooms etc and the top 10 just makes it worse in terms of girls feeling they would do better on the top ten. How many threads do you see the guy stating he'll stick to the top ten?

Girls read this and feel the only way they can compete is to win favor in the top 10 by offering what other ladies won't! So for a place on this top 20, she compromises the industry standards for popularity and not numbers, often compromising on service standards as well as money! Remember, not all clients read the forum....they open ESA on the front page, scroll down the page viewing what catches their eye, and when spoilt for choice and unable to make a choice....BHAM....THE TOP 10 catches their attention! Surely my money will be well spent if these are the best girls according to so many ratings from various happy clients! It minimises his search to ten over all the great service providers he could have chosen that are still highly rated but don't have enough gold members up their butts!

He then books the lady expecting to be blown away by this goddess, but once the girl finds out he's not a gold member, he receives mediocre service or she offers him a huge discount or freebie to take out a membership and rate her in exchange, but the service still remains mediocre because it's free, so why should he have any right to complain.

Then it filters down to all the clients looking for freebies or discounts knowing the stupidity of these ladies and how many of them do this shit to gain popularity, who will try their luck by telling us that this top ten girl offers xy and z. You not on the top ten, so why do you charge so much if you are not the best? Or so and so offers bareback etc, and she's a top girl according to this system, oh and by the way, I'm a gold member and if you don't give me what I want, I'll blacken your business on the forum a d rate you a zero....


You are not dealing with logic here, but rather ego, which clients and ladies play each other with!

It might not matter to many of us, sure, but it's the bullshit it causes for the rest of us being held under the standards these girls set and the clients expecting us to follow! We deal with enough shit on a daily basis with calls, messages and politics tonow have our frustration amplified by people that fuck up industry standards for a little extra popularity/attention....

Orpheus, girls talk around other girls! I can tell you a lot more about you then you realize. All I will say is that they do not 'vouch' for you!

That is one of the reasons why I stop working from a spa and start working from home. There are ladies who offer a free touching and playing with a "message and hand release only" session, and yes, it's their choice but remember that a lady working from a venu only gets half of the money you paid in front. There is NO WAY IN HEL that I will offer that without a extra fee. I'm worth more than a shameless R150 half an hour or R350 an hour, therefore I will give you exactly what you paid for... "Massage with hand release only". For me it's an insult. How can a punter expect that from any lady without a extra fee or tip. When one such client refuse to pay an extra R100 for that he gave me a bad review and still go on about it on the forum after 18 months... The best is to have a conversation with a lady before you book her. That way you know exactly what you getting and will exclude any discomfort and dissapointments. We all offer different services and have our own rules, do's and don'ts and I find it very unfair to expect it from all the ladies.
Just my point of view

Soo julle praat oor die punters onder mekaar .. Hoop nie julle lag oor my kort tril nie ander gaan ek nie meer punt nie !!

On 2017-05-18 12:27:33 Veronica Franco said:
Orpheus, girls talk around other girls! I can tell you a lot more about you then you realize. All I will say is that they do not 'vouch' for you!

That's an outright lie. Who ? Tell them to pm me. I won't divulge their names on the forum.

I need more popcorn, this topic is getting better by the minute!

Orpheus said:
So there you have my view. BTW I have never short changed nor haggled with any WG over rates etc. If I feel that you are too expensive(re Stacey - R2500 ph) then I just move on.

You first caught my attention while reading through random posts, and you came up on every thread saying she's to expensive, she's not worth the price paid etc. Your posts have always centred around belittling ladies and their worth in terms of fees. You did it to the new Bridgette who was offering a special about a week ago! Maybe you have an issues with all Bridgettes, who knows. But you first put a girl down for daring to offer so much for their bodies, and then you move on!

Appearing to be a bargain hunter and cheap skate in terms of YOUR OWN WORDS AND POSTS, that you are consistent to, just destroys the credibility and insults the ladies you do praise and rate....don't you think?

On 2017-05-18 12:27:33 Veronica Franco said:
Orpheus, girls talk around other girls!

All I will say is that they do not 'vouch' for you!

This now takes my mind back to the old caltex oil advert.

Miss V you did not open a can of worms here. You opened a can of the best" worms here

On 2017-05-18 12:35:35 pantum said:
Soo julle praat oor die punters onder mekaar .. Hoop nie julle lag oor my kort tril nie ander gaan ek nie meer punt nie !!

Everyday Pantum....but girls love you in contrary to others! Xxx