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Veronica Franco - Re: Full house and massage, massage and full house?
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Posted: 2017-06-11 16:40:10

Thanks for your input guys! Interesting to see the 'why's' from a punters perspective and nice to see more guys respond on a post for a change although maybe I should have directed the question to the ladies rather. But good food for thought anyway from a marketing perspective!
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Posted: 2017-06-11 16:50:17

There was a discussion a while back about the topic but it was more on the expectation vs cost of service. In this discussion gents suggested that a punter simply books a lady he knows upfront what to expect from as then its easy to manage both the expectation and cost of service thereof. If you got cash to burn then no problem!

Example: If you looking for a massage only go to any spa and DON'T get there and try your luck to push for more as that wasn't your original intention! Why I do I say this? The ladies there say they always get guys pushing for MORE basing on the guys paying a side fee. How much? Becomes the question. Say you book a short session for R500 and you push to tip with another R500 to get her to HE then you push with another R1k for more... that's already R2k for that 30min slot for your shoulders. Wasn't it more sensible from a cost (and expectation view) just to get a massage girl who goes all the way and pay her her fee and both of you knew what to expect without anyone feeling pushed or ripped off!

That was the conclusion then....
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Posted: 2017-06-11 16:57:06

On 2017-06-11 16:50:17 John_Benz said:
There was a discussion a while back about the topic but it was more on the expectation vs cost of service. In this discussion gents suggested that a punter simply books a lady he knows upfront what to expect from as then its easy to manage both the expectation and cost of service thereof. If you got cash to burn then no problem!

Example: If you looking for a massage only go to any spa and DON'T get there and try your luck to push for more as that wasn't your original intention! Why I do I say this? The ladies there say they always get guys pushing for MORE basing on the guys paying a side fee. How much? Becomes the question. Say you book a short session for R500 and you push to tip with another R500 to get her to HE then you push with another R1k for more... that's already R2k for that 30min slot for your shoulders. Wasn't it more sensible from a cost (and expectation view) just to get a massage girl who goes all the way and pay her her fee and both of you knew what to expect without anyone feeling pushed or ripped off!

That was the conclusion then....



I suppose my question is an observation on how there are no clear boundaries anymore according to what is sold! Strippers, masseuses, escorts are all ultimately prostitutes these days, just a different marketing strategy and packaging. I actually industry it very sad!
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Posted: 2017-06-11 17:18:17

On 2017-06-11 16:06:42 Veronica Franco said:
How does this make massage ladies feel? I would imagine it grates them to no end!

Even if I were a professional masseuse, if I do full house, I'm a wg with additional skills, nothing more.


Massage girls not doing extras cannot be angry if some massage girls do offer extras as this is an adult site with services sold and time so what wg/mg chose to do in there time should not bother the rest cause each pays for there own add and may offer any service in there time
if you are good at massage be it Swedish, sports, aromatherapy or sensual body to body you can put a massage add as long as u are not robbing the massage guys from the massage treatment they expect
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Posted: 2017-06-11 17:20:50

Correct!
Hence the guys tried to help particularly new punters NOT to confuse things. That is exactly your question because you do get normal beautician girls working off the walkway day shops who will just rub your shoulders and back! They aint to be confused with the other professionals who offer "other" services whether their core business was studied for or not.

I don't get why gents push for more at normal spas when they are straight willing professionals with no grey boundaries about whats on the table when one walks through the door. I think its a conscience thing like that the guys wants to tell his head that she is a MG (who has randomly decided to go all the way/not a WG)!

To me sounds a bit off. Make up your mind then book the right professional for exactly what you need - Just my 2 cents ....
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Posted: 2017-06-11 17:26:53

At times many wg me including put up 2 adds with different services 1 fh add ,1 mg add and I offer my best in both but what I do lack in is the body to body so when I do put massage adds on I emphasis on the type of massages I do offer

And no other person should be offended or hurt by a wg having a mg add she paid for if she is good and it and no guy can be upset that his mg is pomping we are here to survive
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Posted: 2017-06-11 17:47:12

On 2017-06-11 17:20:50 John_Benz said:
Correct!
Hence the guys tried to help particularly new punters NOT to confuse things. That is exactly your question because you do get normal beautician girls working off the walkway day shops who will just rub your shoulders and back! They aint to be confused with the other professionals who offer "other" services whether their core business was studied for or not.

I don't get why gents push for more at normal spas when they are straight willing professionals with no grey boundaries about whats on the table when one walks through the door. I think its a conscience thing like that the guys wants to tell his head that she is a MG (who has randomly decided to go all the way/not a WG)!

To me sounds a bit off. Make up your mind then book the right professional for exactly what you need - Just my 2 cents ....



I agree! How many places have started out one way and had their business run into the ground by losing clients due to their core service not being upheld to what it initially is?

Don't get me wrong, I have also gained from this myself because if you can't beat them with integrity (not a virtue in this industry) you join them! Think I have an issue with ladies looking down on wgs too when they are no better!

I don't know, personally, I just find the that each unique service/business has lost its allure and dare I say 'glamour' in the degeneration to nothing more then all becoming glorified brothels and houses of ill repute rather then taking pride in what they are actually supposed to be! Seems all have succumbed exclusively to what the 'punter' wants over any integrity that the girl/house initially intends to be.

I suppose it's all a question of what sells in this depressed economy. Just find it all sad.
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Posted: 2017-06-11 18:35:14

I think there is no need to push boundaries with the wrong SPs when things can be done a whole lot easier! If one wants a massage with a DEFINITE HE/whatever at the end why not simply book the exact professional and pay for an exact service.

I have one MG (stunning, very tempting to ask) I visit religiously been years, if I want a massage, my work stresses a lot, she works at a normal spa but is exceptional in her skills! if I were to pick odd fun I cant be bothered as to whom to book but its critical to be crystal clear as to what to expect on booking so there is no confusion!
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Posted: 2017-06-11 18:57:46

I think it is a better change for the lady to get out of "Full House" if she don't want to have intercourse with the specific guy. She then gives him only a massage.
If she let a guy have FH she can also charge more than the FH girls rates as he "desperately" wants it from her
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Posted: 2017-06-11 19:08:00

On 2017-06-11 18:57:46 Wel wel said:
I think it is a better change for the lady to get out of "Full House" if she don't want to have intercourse with the specific guy. She then gives him only a massage.
If she let a guy have FH she can also charge more than the FH girls rates as he "desperately" wants it from her



I agree fully, but with the lines all blurring, the clients all sharing information etc, it's only a matter of time before it's a given regardless of where you go as the standards decline and the punters always looking to have his cake and eat it for practically nothing.

Why do you think massage girls all go that route eventually anyway?

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