No prob Ari/330.

I do understand your point of view.
On the other hand none of us know how the other ladies suffers/manage there business.


Remember we been in this game for years, no one starts of with 100 clients a month.
Like one client told me, my girl we getting old... this is not going to last forever!
The ones that made it are providers that gives a good service.
Or build up a reputation with there clientele.

We all do what we have to to survive.
I've seen the good and the bad in this industry.
Me (because I stick to my own rules) not doing FH anymore but only Massages ....dropped from a regular clientele of about 40 to max 3 people DOES influence my pockets.
So here's the thing... I'll rather crawl and start over again.. we stand up and move on.
At this age I wish I knew how to saved up for rainy days .... but I can't turn back time.
I needed to start over.
Some of us never learn how to manage our income...because we always belief tomorrow will provide for itself.

Wake up call... tomorrow may never come
And something else pops up unexpectedly and it puts you down in your financial situation.
If this was a consistent income I would say yes you can budget and then manage your finances.
But no sometimes you get days without ANY income but your responsibilities just keeps piling up!
Sad to say ....Some make it some don't.

Meg you are 100% correct as I too started out young and dumb lol now I'm just young ;)

We do learn from our mistakes and experiences. That's if you have a level head on your shoulders.

Life is not easy for everyone at some point or another, sometimes we make bad decisions which could also affect our income so we learn so we grow :)

It is up to the people with more experience to guide the rest of them the problem is some people take offense if one does while others are more than willing to learn.

Unfortunately the transition from working girl to massage girl is not as profitable as the transition from massage girl to working girl and yes it will take time for you to build your business again with hard work, perseverance and always putting your best foot forward with every treatment maybeeven look at little things that could make a huge difference to your clients stay (no matter how good you are there is always room for growth)

There is nothing wrong with starting over.I'm not sure what your rates are So I'm going say 800 a hour as that is my rate for a hour's massage and hand relief . Do keep in mind a guy that wants a good massages will always extended to 90 mins if you give a good massage(Irrespective we will work on the 800 rate at 3 clients a day)

If you work for yourself great you not paying agency/room fees or levies.

And if you do work at a venue and let's say the venue take half of that( which not all venues do)

I'll make my calculations based on the venue taking half your money as this is a lesser salary.

Invest in a drop safe.

3 bookings at 400 gives you 1200 a day if you only work from let's say Monday to Friday so we work on 18 days a month leaving room for quiet day's and weekends. It gives you a total of 21600.

Now we have to think about day to day living expenses too. Transport food if you don't buy on a month to month basis (which works out cheaper in the long run)

So let's deducted say 500 a day for day today living this is 9000 you have to use on a daily basis. It is more than enough to cover the months daily expenses.

The balance of 700 then goes into your drop safe.This means that buy the end of the month you have saved 12600 which should then cover the rent school fees etc. (These calculation exclude 90 min treatments and tips)

Always work within a budget. It wouldn't make sense to have a 10K a month rental if you only earning 15 a month.

To manage ones money effectively we have to discipline ourselves.

It's not always easy especially in this industry but it is Possible ;)

Mindset and attitude is everything.

I hope this helps some of the ladies out there.

Apologies again for derailing your thread :)

Have a blessed day and Big Bux

Thanks Ari hope you keep the winter chills away

Okaayy.. well back to the original topic; which was about having the option to choose which period of time you would like to stay online. Thank you Nadia for your advice on Opera Mini.
The use of data wasn't the issue, it was the time period online. I would like to add that I have wifi at home and work and a contract phone and hardly ever put myself online. The managing of finances is each to their own and we are in no position to point fingers on how and why others don't budget or can't survive with the money they make. (Just my humble opinion)

The post was for those who find it difficult to put themselves online every 30min (whatever the reason)

So here goes.. would Esa be so kind as to consider an option longer than 30min's pls? Even 45min's would be a better?

Meg I wish you all the best and although difficult, stick to your decision. You're one of THE most beautiful ladies on esa (inside and out)...

Baie soentjies XOXOXO

Yes I agree Miss Ruby.

Don't think anyone will understand until they walk a mile in our shoes.
I've seen so many girls struggle and now they need to choose airtime or food or taxi for the day... wtf would you choose if business are quite?
I think we are wise enough to know you can't put yourself available every hour.
If you on available and you get a booking set your availability OFF, so other ladies also gets a chance to advertise.
I know a lot of ladies going into a booking but sets themselves available and then they can't answer there calls.
Why do that?
Ag well we can't tell anyone how to run there business.
Just do your own thing... no one else is bringing YOUR food to the table!
Thank you so much for the compliment Ruby I really appreciate it.
Big hugz.

You too Meg :)

Miss Ruby you are welcome to your opinion just like I am to mine in response to some of the posts that was made be it off topic or not.Most conversations go off topic at some point or another be it in the forum and off. Data was also mentioned in the initial post and therefore it came up in the discussion ;)

I have been on both sides of the spectrum so I speak from experience. This was just advice. Nobody is forced to take advice ;) Used it don't use it whatever floatsyour boat :)

ESA has given a valid reason as to why this is not a option. I am culprit, I never make myself unavailable and I understand the punters frustration in not being able to get hold of available girls which are not. So I am on the same page as ESA (this is not often the case)

A beautiful day to you ma'am ;)

I also agree Ari.
They have there reasons I guess.
Some would just take advantage of something like that.

Maybe there should be 2 links then

1. Actually available - meaning if you call now I will answer and if say you'll be there in 10min it's good becuase I'm actually available.

2. Available within hour - meaning you were or maybe available somewhere in the last hour.

This should be enforced with fines meaning complaints of non-availability for actual bookings when the really available optin is used will help validate it.

That way wgs can choose were to show availability and punters can choose which link to go to depending on their needs and everyone is happy.

Great Idea need... but yes it's going to be to much of a hassle for the admin or web designer.
Rather let it be.
But thank you for the suggestion.
It's a function that's been provided to us , other sites hasn't got it.
Or I think so?

'enforced with fines' lol.
Ek se liewer niks!!!

My suggestion is 45 minutes, as on of the girls suggested - middle ground.
I'm sure lots of girls will appreciate it.