On 2017-08-31 09:30:42 Sibyl said:
I have always maintained, and I still do, that body to body sliding on the front of a client's body, is extremely risky not only for the client, but also for the service provider.

I have lost count of how many clients have told me that many mg does the body slide thing over the client's uncovered dicks, with the mg not wearing a panty, rubbing her private parts over his dick.

This is extremely risky not only with regards to std's, but also wrt to consensual or even forced unprotected sex from taking place.

100% I too have had this kind of feed back and here I thought I was the only nana out there that does a body to body only on the back.

Good to know I'm not alone

On 2017-08-30 14:38:42 Fred8 said:
On 2017-08-30 14:20:43 Arhwen said: I hope non of these ladies are mothers. What they don't realise is that if anything happens to them and they fall ill those very same punters that made them I'll will not be looking after their children when the mother no longer can.

That is what also upsets me! I know for a fact that 3 of them are mothers. One girl, i dont know... I also feel your children should be your FIRST priority! But then, we often dont know how desprate things might be. But it simmilarly concerns me that when girls offer these things - you have to wonder if they have nothing to loose? (I am sure you can read between the lines).

Please note that i am not judging. I dont know their circumstances, and maybe if faced with the same choices, i would have done the same.

All i am asking is, please do not assume all the clients want it... Give us the choice!

This is sad they should put their kids before money. I know money pays the bills feeds, cloths and educates the kids bit honestly who will do that when they are no longer around to do it???

Clients getting bareback???

I think not. No wait I know not ;)

Frankly, desperate/ignorant people offer and indulge in bareback.

Its not exclusive to our sector. The highest rate of HIV is amongst 15-24 year old women in S.A.

The reasons being promiscuity with other peers and selling themselves to people to survive as well as sexual violence.

Guess who most of these young girls have unprotected sex with? Married, older, "monogamous" South African men.

HIV is not in an exclusive relationship with our sector. There are numerous initiatives steered at ensuring we aren't ignorant however, they're not created for ladies who can advertise on this platform.

The initiatives are aimed at ladies working on the streets as the risk of infection is much higher on that end as research has indicated.

Judging from the forum, there's alot of hatred from both sides with massage ladies and gfe ladies.

Having been both, I understand why.

My phone rings continuously but very few bookings happen. Most want extra's and I decline. Not only does it leave me extremely broke however, it stings my ego and dignity.

When I offered gfe guys were horrendous in terms of paying my fee. They felt for R750, 00 they should be entitled to so much more.

None took into consideration that I gave the best experience in terms of gfe including working from a 5 star hotel.

My current massage fee is R500. Men are prepared to give me up to R2000 extra just for extra's.

That hurts as they cannot often give one anything extra when you've provided an amazing experience as a gfe provider.

Instead the attitude is you should give oral without, cim, kisses, cuddles, 90 min sessions, greek, facials etc all in a safe, upmarket environment whilst looking like a super star for R100,00.

Clients are partially fuelling the hatred were throwing at each other.

I've contemplated being a companion again and going back to my gfe ways for a number of reasons however, I am in 2 minds about the matter.

On 2017-08-31 22:39:21 Syren @ The Doll House said:
Johndoe69za.., You never know as you say... lol. My logic just screams an entirely different story though...;)

When we agree to disagree, that is when the conversation becomes interesting

Perhaps the title should be "Don't assume we want to die".

I personally love bareback amd I'm sure most do. Hate the condom and hence rather book more bjs.

But hell no and I'm going to take a chance barebacking in this industry no matter how tempting it is. Even a non-wg takes months to years to build up enough trust to believe they're safe and even then, you're never really safe.

I love Bareback ......... With my HAND!!!

Maybe other guys are like Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington. SELFISH AND WANT TO COMMIT SUICIDE. (I believe committing suicide is selfish)

They don't have the balls to Tie a rope around their necks or a gun against their heads. They want to die a slow painful death! So they go Bareback on a girl they don't know that works in the industry.

Maybe the girls who allow this want to give payback because she fell for a sweet talking Joe who infected her and now she is upset with the world and want to infect as many as possible.

Sick ideas but that's how I see it!!!

On 2017-09-01 14:09:10 johndoe69za said:
On 2017-08-31 22:39:21 Syren @ The Doll House said: Johndoe69za.., You never know as you say... lol. My logic just screams an entirely different story though...;)

When we agree to disagree, that is when the conversation becomes interesting

I'm not disagreeing Johndoe... by saying my logic says differently I mean his allegations don't make logical sense....

On 2017-08-31 22:29:35 johndoe69za said:
I guess it is possible that Fred8 is some famous person that all the girls are just dying for him to get in their panties so to speak,

Never know, you just never know

Hahaha, how did I miss this. Another way to look at it, lol.

@Sultry Indian Jiah I must say, I admire your mind so much. You always come across sound and confident, I enjoy reading your posts.

@Fred, it's just that in this industry there are guys who don't think of us as normal human beings so your general statement was just a reminder of how we are viewed.

Thank you for your apology and clarification. Wishing you a great weekend