I've been a member long on ESA, feels really like ages, and only really started reading the forum about 2+ years or so ago. Ended up going to 2 socials, which was really great. Met great ladies and punters at the social.

My point is, that when I joined, the forum had really very interesting topics and people who really made the forum what it was.

People were able to say what they want without being judged or banned. It did not matter if you disagreed or not, or just being very opinionated.

People who really made the forum interesting which is banned now, people like Qcumber, Mujahid, Orpheus, and the list goes on. The punters whose reviews also really counted. Now you get dishonest punters on here which write reviews but never even visited the ladies at all, do not know what kick back they getting and from whom. Some ladies being in the top ten which are really questionable.

I miss the older forum days where everyone could say what they want and make the forum interesting. A lady like Russian Bridgette which publishes really nice readings, and everyone commenting on it. Until one person decided she is a fraud.

I miss the old Veronica Franco who was rather giving advice most of the time to other ladies but now being a lot more opinionated and not nice pointing out mishaps and calling for ladies to being banned from ESA. Will still make a plan to visit her in the new year as she is still on my ESA bucket list.

Miss Minnieme's responses before he went into hiding for whatever reason and now having a new alias. People like Melrose, Poppy, midnight Express which also really said what they wanted. Guys like Tappalot which also disappeared, and Daporra, see he still comments once in while, Pere and Amber which really took the socials by its horn, also another lady that is still on my bucket list. A lady like Arizona who always had the back of all the other ladies in conjunction with Meg. Accompanied by Ruby Red and Janine.

And the some of the ladies who always had the competitions on here which made the punters blood run high,ladies like Stormpie and Chassidy and then used to be also Lady Foxy who also made the men drool.

Now it feels like that some of the punters do not know what the difference is between fantasy or reality and then they want to criticise.

Look, I can probably go on for ages here naming everyone that is currently missed on the forum, who really spiced things up and had interesting topics, not like now where it is boring and most of the topics to not even get replies on.

I like the forum a lot and hope that it will change for the better in the new year.

"I like the forum a lot and hope that it will change for the better in the new year."

Totally agree ... let's hope for the best !!!

Well said - bring back the characters!

I miss the old Veronica Franco who was rather giving advice most of the time to other ladies but now being a lot more opinionated and not nice pointing out mishaps and calling for ladies to being banned from ESA. Will still make a plan to visit her in the new year as she is still on my ESA bucket list.

@hpviper, I miss the old Veronica too. The one that had ideas and a change the world, one random act of kindness at a time one. I miss . the me that was naive and got dragged through the dark and was shown more betrayal, ugliness, jealousy and everything that earns one the honor of being branded as jaded. Opinionated, I have always been, so not sure what you are talking about.... people have called me that since my first post and it is what has earned my infamy on esa to some degree.... I still advise if I have something relevant to share with a person that has the sense to take it, but I have learnt that it is better to give your opinion based on experience rather then advise because most hate taking advice and using it....they take offence to the insinuation that you may know something they don't.

As for calling for bans etc, we all follow the same guidelines and rules... And I have never called for another ladies ban unless it was a clear violation to mine and other ladies safety for example, exposing other ladies on the ladies forum to clients. Many have done the same to me in the past to the extent that I stayed off the forum because I had no idea what I was or wasn't allowed to say or do or who complained about what. I was broken down then kicked while I was down by ladies and gents I dared to trust because I had nobody else.

I actually started to hate the old Veronica as she left a reputation behind that I could no longer maintain as I had changed.... that is a natural occurrence that comes with age and stems from growing, learning,, standing up after one has fallen etc....My life circumstances have changed too, but I have more insight and reason for caution then I had then....I miss her ability to trust and her propensity for benefit of the doubt with regards to everyone, but even she learnt that trusting your gut saves you many hours/months/years of regrets and there have been many regrets because she ignored it and one thing we both hate is regret.

Rather take me off the bucket list as I have no desire to live up to someone that lived in my past....! I forgave her for the impossible expectations her reputation casts on me because she had no idea then that she would be me today after all she had to learn and endure....all that has changed is my level of understanding the world I live in and knowing and questioning from the experiences I've had and those to come..... another side effect I am told.

I was going through old posts the other day while bored and had some good laughs at myself and present and past punters for the simple truth that the more things change, the more they stay the same, the only thing that does change is you and your personal perspective of how things were, are and what they will/should be.

And then there is the
reassuring forum moderation that prevents all out Chaos etc, in a world where friends turn on friends over sex, jealousy and greed. Someone is always out to get another and if we were allowed to post anything without judgement, it would get out of hand very fast....... been there, done that....got tarred and feathered by the village elders, then came back as a chicken!

To be honest, my posts back then were worse because we had no limits or rules. The name calling and personal attacks was something else too. We had no rights legally or online so the bullies and predators all revelled in causing Fear and degradation in our lives. Ladies that stood up for themselves and others took bad knocks from the guys ripping into them so they withdrew from the forum and it was one big egotistical cock fest with the exception of a few that stayed.

I have to disagree with you hpviper...I miss many of the old posters that were here for sure, but the unmoderated forum was frightening and harmful to us without any repercussions for those that attacked us. We do revel in the little bit of recourse the ESA system now allows us!

Every system is flawed and everyone has different ideas on how they think it could be improved, but I think it has improved in leaps and bounds since I first came onto ESA.

I will always be opinionated, it's ingrained in me. But just as 'your' view of me has changed, so too has my views of the industry because of the experiences you all give me, good and bad and I will not be put down over it. My responses are very normal according to the Veronica you think you knew then in fact, I'm downright angelic and controlled these days, lol.

On 2017-12-28 06:57:57 hbviper said:
I've... <snip> ... and hope that it will change for the better in the new year.

This is hardly a forum anymore, as it is abused for marketing mainly, boring to the core.
Gone are the interesting subjects, discussions and indeed also the fights, all adding to "interesting".
The likes of Capie, Punter S Thompson, Johan(various numbers) and Lickalotapoes we likely won't see again as this now is a moderated means - of course, it's a free add-on which should cause the minimum effort/disruption/cost to the owners.
Yeah, I also think that's a pity but so be it.

Perhaps Eddie would consider a paid-for membership for just the forum, reviews excluded?

@ Skomhc

Dear Sir

If this forum is so terrible, what prey tell are you doing here in the first place.

The parties you allude to were epic idiots each and every one of them, each with a personal axe to grind (against certain ladies, against ESA), doing all they could to sabotage our operations. Some are still present and very good riddance to the rest who are not.

Exercise your right of freedom of association and dont use the forum and never come back period.

Good day to you Sir

Eddie
ESA SUPPORT

Amen Eddie. Sorry, but some of those that used to add their "2cents" worth, that were thought to be "entertaining" were downright degrading and I'm glad they were banned. (A few still surface and can't control their urges to demean women and belittle men on the forum)
Some I still miss though.. Minime was always a fav of mine.. but whatever the reason for his disappearance, I wish him well.. mwah!!

I, personally, welcome the moderation and sensoring of persons who do not follow the rules.

MR

hbviper.....dit wat jy se is so waar ...en toe ek nog in bedryf was en n punter gee jou n bad review het jy dit gevat en jou diens opreg verbeter....

Mis die ou dae van die forum...


xxxx
Laura

@ HBVIPER.
I totally agree with you boet. However I have come to realise that it's best to be silent and watch from afar,that way avoiding all the unnecessary bullshit you now get on the platform.
However a drink up is due between us.

Pm me

Hmm I don't usually post on the forum but I have to agree with veronica the moderated forum is much better.

Do we miss the old keyboard warriors? perhaps but I'm pretty sure they still here just under different nicks.