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Posted: 2017-11-23 07:20:34

That's so true. We cannot avoid blaming the government for the contaminated and polluted water problem people are faced with in different areas. It is indeed their fault we see this through the way that they misuse public funds instead of putting that money towards basic needs of the people such as clean water
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Posted: 2017-11-23 08:08:03

The earth is 2/3rds water,the Israeli's have perfected desalination to such a degree that they turned a desert into the most productive peice if agricultural land on earth, so no the next world war will not be fought over water, it will fought over some stupid superiority ideology or religion between humans like the past 2 world wars were...

the problem we are experiencing in gauteng are due to lack of maintenance and lack of planning, of course in a first world country somebody would get fired for this but not here, we will probably just hire their mother and their two brothers as a reward..

Cape Town should have put in some desalination plants by now, but for all the DA's mumbling about good governability and getting the trains running on time,this never happened even though the problem has been in view for 5 years, someone should have got fired there by now as well..

plus all those BDS assholes in the Cape Town who refuse to buy Israeli products and have fought the Israeli desalination plants should never get a drop of desalinated water, actually they are so dumb they should never get another drop of water ...

@jasimo I am glad you have fought 10000 well paying semi skilled jobs in an over grazed semi desert on flimsy scientific proof in order to feel good about yourself , remember next time you are moaning about high crime and the job killing ANC that it's privileged arseholes with jobs like yourself who also helped create this situation...
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Posted: 2017-11-23 08:10:32

On 2017-11-22 12:16:28 Arhwen said:
Yesterday I herd something interesting on classic FM. It is said that apparently the next world war will be started because of water.

My take on the whole water shortage situation is the earth is made up of 80% of water even I nature for millenniums water has always recycled it's self (Evaporation and Condensation) Even in times when there was draught in the past it was with time overcome.

So help me understand how we have water shortages???

In a discussion about this I was told that our pumps and filter systems are not working but then is our tax money (those that do pay taxes) meant to pay for the up keep of these purification systems??? Then why are they not being fixed or maintained.

What's your take on the subject???



Miss A the WW3 issue is bigger than RSA. It's man made. It has to do with urbanisation, industrialization, global warming. It's super complicated.

Basically capitalism allows me to profit without paying for the societal costs I create.
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Posted: 2017-11-23 08:40:39

On 2017-11-22 12:16:28 Arhwen said:
Yesterday I herd something interesting on classic FM. It is said that apparently the next world war will be started because of water.

My take on the whole water shortage situation is the earth is made up of 80% of water even I nature for millenniums water has always recycled it's self (Evaporation and Condensation) Even in times when there was draught in the past it was with time overcome.

So help me understand how we have water shortages???

In a discussion about this I was told that our pumps and filter systems are not working but then is our tax money (those that do pay taxes) meant to pay for the up keep of these purification systems??? Then why are they not being fixed or maintained.

What's your take on the subject???



I very much doubt that. There is plenty of water available on our planet and we have the technology to make it drinkable. Yes, it's expensive at the moment, but more and more suppliers coming onto the market and solutions will become cheaper. If we only had fresh water resources without any possibility of using seawater then Id agree we could have serious conflicts (maybe not a wprld war) over water resources coming our way.
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Posted: 2017-11-23 09:20:44

On 2017-11-23 08:10:32 SwysVanSchalkW said:


Basically capitalism allows me to profit without paying for the societal costs I create.



Oh yes no company ever paid tax or ever hired anyone who paid tax, do you believe in unicorns as well?

It ain't capitalism's problem that the fruits of it labour is spent in firepools and Mercedes Benz instead of societal costs, that is actually society's fault..

surely you would like to live in North Korea where capitalism no longer exists..
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Posted: 2017-11-23 10:30:23

As Arhwen says, there is the same amount of water in the world as there was 100,000 years ago, it revolves in a cycle as taught in high school.

The problem comes from where the water is located, that has changed a lot through the years and what we are adding to it.

Climate change has always happened, we don't help matters but it has always happened so underground aquifers do not get replenishes, lakes dry up and the population dies or has to move. The Sahara was home to more than a couple of now non-existent civilizations.

As another poster said, pollution renders water temporarily unusable, temporary being anything from a few days to a thousand years. We pollute, dump it and do not give a thought about how we are diminishing the supply of fresh potable water.

As far as the shortage in Cape Town is concerned the above has had far more of an affect than sloppily maintained infrastructure.

Almost everyone is guilty, at least on occasion, of abusing fresh water, including me and mine. The fact is that we may pay for water supply and treatment but that cost is directly related to the amount used. Of course, central, provincial and local government could do better however the larger problem is with us, you, me and everyone who treats water as an endless supply of something that it is someone else's problem to maintain.

So, what do we do?

Invest in a rain water tank.

A well maintained septic tank is far more environmentally sound than connecting to a municipal sewerage system.

Irrigate and water at night rather than day time.

Implement a grey water system.

Get a more efficient toilet.

Cover your pool.

Don't waste the stuff, it won't run out but it can become effectively unusable.

Now we can of course blame the government but the fact is that we can and should do more.

OK that's the end of my enviro-warrior tree hugging rant.
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Posted: 2017-11-23 13:35:51
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If it's yellow - let it mellow.
If it's brown - flush it down.

One way of saving water.
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Posted: 2017-11-23 18:26:04

On 2017-11-23 08:08:03 Doubleslappedass said:
the Israeli's ... turned a desert into the most productive peice if agricultural land



SA should have done same with the Karoo: a gargantuan desalination plant on the Westcoast, driven by a nuclear plant, feeding huge pipelines into the Karoo if not the OFS. The offspring would be huge employment there where now is nothing, and CT would have had zero problems either.
But yeah, one must have a working government for such, and this is Africa...
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Posted: 2017-11-23 18:31:11

On 2017-11-23 18:26:04 Skomhc said:
.......one must have a working government for such, and this is Africa...



Or a far-sighted provincial regime who could have read the writing on the wall much earlier. Say the mid-2000s! Wishful thinking methinks!!
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Posted: 2017-11-23 19:02:37

On 2017-11-23 08:08:03 Doubleslappedass said:
The earth is 2/3rds water,the Israeli's have perfected desalination

plus all those BDS assholes in the Cape Town who refuse to buy Israeli products and have fought the Israeli desalination plants should never get a drop of desalinated water, actually they are so dumb they should never get another drop of water ...
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BDS are doing excellent work all over the world-all strength to them!

Desalination is not the exclusive trademark of any one country.
Desalination plants use a lot of electricity.
South Africa is a very arid country.
I think the days of pools in suburban properties will come to an end.

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