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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-16 14:41:45

Thanks Q.

In the last 9 months there have been 42 different top 10s.

Of those 11 aren't on the site anymore so they may well have made repeats.

19 have repeated their appearances.

There are currently over 1200 profiles....

So you are saying the Top 10 of 42 WGs of 1200 is a fair reflection ?

I think it's possible the top 10 could be portrayed differently, it's not my site though.

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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-16 15:13:39

Top 10 dont matter in bigger scheme of things. Plenty enough great gals to book. Dunno why so many punters only want to book top10 gals on the front page of ESA. That is beyond dumb
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Orpheus - Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-16 15:27:36

Plenty meat to eat. like ash1 says. personally i don't care about the top ten.

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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-16 16:48:09

Hi everyone,
I have been a reader of ESA form for a while and have noticed….

The Top 100, Top 10 - 10 to 800 points…..
It's all just a way to create competition and jealousy between the ladies!

It's human nature to want/need to be on top so hence the many topics here made by ladies to offer Gold Members specials, freebies, special favours, requesting “honest reviews” or even making fake reviews, or reviewing and bad mouthing other wg’s….. just to score points.

The ladies should just relax and do what they do best instead of worrying about the point system.

Each and every one of you ladies are different and special in your own way and no one is better than the next, as it’s all about individual taste!
peace

Monika
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Posted: 2015-10-17 11:39:01

@ catch-up well said
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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-17 23:50:09
Edited: 2015-10-17 23:51:48

On 2015-10-16 16:48:09 catch-up said:

It's human nature to want/need to be on top so hence the many topics here made by ladies to offer Gold Members specials, freebies, special favours, requesting “honest reviews” or even making fake reviews, or reviewing and bad mouthing other wg’s….. just to score points.

The ladies should just relax and do what they do best instead of worrying about the point system.



It is also human nature to want to be the best in your field, or to take inspiration from those who are. If not we would never have evolved as it is that which drives evolution in the human race.

As for your point about freebies, favors and honest reviews... No lady I know has ever offered a freebie, not for a review, they have been asked for that from punters and that's been reported to ESA Support and handled. And should you have specific claim to make about WG doing extra things for a review then by all means bring it forward.
And yes there have been cases of bad mouthing by the ladies and also by punters, but to think that is strictly an issue because of the points system is completely mistaken and you have maybe missed out on how many times ESA Support has ensured those who would be victimised by these woman and punters are protected and the bad apples ejected.

In the last few months we have had a few issues like this...
VDB offering a freebie to a few punters for no other reason then she is plainly an awesome generous woman.
And Foxi who openly stated she wanted to fix her reputation and was offering a special to Gold Members to do so... She wasn't hiding anything and I think by openly showing she was trying to make sure her reputation was repaired show that she does care about her services which is great for us in this game.
Punters giving false reviews, which was called out by ESA Support and the offender was called to the carpet to explain himself.
Yes, there have been others but taking these into context shows that the system is clearly not broken and is in fact working for the betterment of us all.

Much as you are disparaging the system here you have to take note that it is that very system that has made the selection of ladies here the absolute best. The review system while it will never be perfect has exposed many dodgy woman and saved the hard earned money of many would be victims of these woman.
The rating competition has also rewarded those who consistently put their best foot forward and as a result elevated the services of those who also want to strive to be better by showing that there is indeed a higher level to aspire to.

You came here voluntarily, so if you don't like the system you may always leave the same way.
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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-18 09:05:58

I don't agree they represent "the absolute best"

By the very nature of the votes they can only represent the very best as interpreted by those who are gold members who have reviewed.

Maybe it's the best system currently but the result will always be bias towards the very small percentage of punters who are gold members voting.

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Posted: 2015-10-18 10:18:09

You have also punters who had a great service but are never inclined to go back to a website and rating a wg. Look at this forum. A very low percentage of all members are participating in the forums as it is mainly the same guys participating. Only way of encouraging guys to participate is if the website give a discount fee on membership if a rating takes place. Only challenge then again is: how will they know it is a true rating of a real experience?
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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-18 12:53:31

On 2015-10-18 09:05:58 JustOnce said:
I don't agree they represent "the absolute best"

By the very nature of the votes they can only represent the very best as interpreted by those who are gold members who have reviewed.

Maybe it's the best system currently but the result will always be bias towards the very small percentage of punters who are gold members voting.



Would you not say the current top 10 are not amongst the best ladies on ESA, consistently ? I would, having seen at least 4 of them. Just take a look at the reviews, they speak for themselves and while points may only be allocated by those GM's who visit, reviews may be submitted by anyone so there is also no bias at all on that.

@Jonny100, This is true... the regular forum users only make up a small portion of the total number of punters however the reviews are made by all who are interested, not only forum members. If you want to give points for the top 10 system why should ESA give a discount ? It's your choice, and most GM's are only really interested in having access to the higher resolution imagery and video's so the idea that giving points entitles you to a discount doesn't make sense.

At the end of the day, if the Top 10 system holds no sway or interest with you then simply don't pay attention to it. Nobody is forcing anyone to participate or forcing anyone to see a particular lady here... it's called free will, use it.
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Re: Gold members challenge
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Posted: 2015-10-18 16:37:40

No, I wouldn't say they are. The fact is the same 3% are in the Top 10 as voted by the same punters frequenting the same areas and same WGs.

The only way a statistically correct top 10 could occur would be in the event all WGs are reviewed equally by all. Which won't happen

So the net result is a Gold Member Top 10. Which makes up an incredibly small % of the punting population.

Its a Top 10 of sorts, and having visited my fair share I have had experiences that were superb with other WGs. However at that time I wasn't able to review or vote hence backing up the claims this current Top 10 is but a sampling of a group of people's favourites.

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