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Posted: 2012-05-31 15:33:50

asslapper somebody started a rumor that we do not wash the towels, every client that has been to Divine has seen the girls carrying fresh towels into the room and we change the plinth towels infront of the towels.

We are aware that there was one batch of towels left overnight in the laundry room and got a funny smell but those towels were immediately taken out and thrown out
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Posted: 2012-05-31 15:47:27

"WE" meaning DIVINE GIRLS as the name says speak on behalf of all of us (15 Girls)
As you can see the reason Sam and Sean do not comment on these threads is because they constantly get attacked viciously no matter what they say.

We have tried to clear the air of these vicious lies and accusations

The only point we are trying to make is that if you want to find out what the story is with Divine you are welcome to visit Divine and personally confront every girl with these issues and find out if these accusations are true.

We no longer wish to comment as we constantly get attacked
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Posted: 2012-05-31 16:22:02
Edited: 2012-05-31 16:22:40

Please note I have created this login because I do not own any others.

As per the accusations that have been leveled against myself and my business I am have done the following:

I have booked a polygraph and voice stress test to be conducted at my venue during the course of Saturday. I will be sitting this test and answering the following

1. Have I ever threatened a girl?
2. Have I ever sent the police after a girl that has left my venue?
3. Have we always washed towels after each treatment and not just recycled them.
4. Do I have multiple logins on this site that I use to punt my venue and girls.

The test is being done by Spot on Polygraphs and a full analysis as well as documentation will be provided next week via a link on this forum. They also provide a recorded video of the test which I shall leave at my venue should anyone wish to view it.

Sadly I have attempted to contact Eddie to sort this matter and out and was unable to get hold of him months ago and therefore had no choice but to send a legal letter.

Once my test is done then hopefully we can address the issue of not advertising because it was not of his doing but an agent that refused to assist in demarcating our photos which forced us to pull the advertising.

I do not wish to sling mud and therefore will take the test and once cleared offer to pay for any of the girls you claim to be telling multiple truths to do the same.

My lack of response over the months should at no stage be considered as an indication of guilt but rather one of respect that was indicated in the letter to ESA via my attorneys, they also set the record straight which was never conveyed across to you.

No further comment will be given as this not my forum but I do believe when things go beyond defamatory then it is time to take some sort of constructive step.

I have used my details to register so they are welcome to contact me.

Sean



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Posted: 2012-05-31 22:43:25

"it has nothing to do with the towels which the problem was resolved months ago in any case"

"We are aware that there was one batch of towels left overnight in the laundry room and got a funny smell but those towels were immediately taken out and thrown out"

Perhaps its just me but this story doesnt gel, if it were one batch then why did so many of us experience the same smelly issue over a prolonged period of time?

Perhaps Sean should add to hs polygraph list " I DID NOT BAN DAVI FROM DIVINE" lol

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Posted: 2012-06-01 09:23:47

@ SeanDivine

With all due respect and I'm very cautious in saying this because it seems that the owners of Divine and the ladies of Divine are very sensitive and anything said about them however true or correct is seen as an attack.

Sean you have no other logins because I banned most of them and you might very well still have a few lurking. I hardly have time to apply to investigate what exactly Sean is doing. I factually am aware that you colluded with Sally in he past who gave you logins and you did a few on your own. Remember that there is a huge difference between being clever and thinking you clever.

Sean you must think we are idiots, do you honestly think that getting a polygraph test from a business owned by one of your very close friends is going to make you honest or prove that you honest. I guess you can probably fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

Are you aware of the fact that the bulk of the ladies who have left Divine all advise with us, are you aware that the bulk of the ladies who have left Divine are afraid of you and want nothing to do with you and that the very mention of your name causes them to wince. Some of them even don't want you to know which venue or area they are working from. Obviously we have a whole group of very unnecessary paranoid parties because obviously Saint Sean would do nothing to anyone for any reason.

You speak of things going beyond defamatory, when exactly where you personally or your business defamed. To start with you need to have a good character to begin with which is doubtful as far as it relates to you.

So there was an issue with your towels, you forget that I know you well, at first mention you would have immediately rectified any and all issues with your towels as you rightly should. Problem solved end of story, we move on.

Sean I know that you negate ESA to all you come across, I know because no one can keep a secret in the sex industry and it all comes to my ears. You obviously have your reasons, but know and understand that their are no loyalties in this industry ladies list with us not because they like us or like me but because we have the ability to make them piles of cool hard cash and for as long as we are able to, they will stay irrespective of what you or anyone else says.

Kind regards
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Posted: 2012-06-01 09:47:00

@ESA Support,

This is an independent company, phone and ask for their qualifications, how you would even begin to arrive at the conclusion he is a friend is beyond me.

You are welcome, in fact I beg you to come and see for yourself, bring your own examiner and they can each do a test.

I tried to clear up a misconception months ago with you in the interests of keeping the peace and you chose to have your staff block me.

Eddie for whatever reason you think there is some form of war please understand the following now that you mention Sally.

We asked her to please put the following message on our pictures way back when "Massage Services Only" and she did not that was why we removed the advertising.

When individual girls requested to advertise we agreed and went so far as to repeatedly contact Sally who in turn never pitched so we stopped trying.

So if there is any form of anger or not wanting to advertise with this site it all came from that. Offer me the service and I will use it.

Lastly I called you years back and made an unreserved apology for any bad blood between us, I then considered the matter closed. I have no reason to continue and maybe it is time you let go.

Not wanting to just "use the Forum" I have taken out a years membership, should you ban me then I gladly concede that I paid to have my say.

We can either continue this or we can sit down and speak, clear the air for whatever reason and then move forward because I would love to use your services as long as whomever is assigned to my business gives the service promised.

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Sean
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Posted: 2012-06-01 10:28:38

@Fenix hence the reason for adding the voice stress test.
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Posted: 2012-06-01 10:40:16
Edited: 2012-06-01 10:42:11

@QCumber

There is no need to deny the fact that I banned Davi but there are reasons for it happening.

He made a comment about a girl whom I approached for clarity she immediately phoned him.

This in itself presented a problem because once again you all have your own personal lives and it is my duty to protect that as far as possible. She did not sms him before hand but rather called which I did take up with her as is my prerogative I have banned liaising with clients.

The reason being that if discretion is required at my venue then it should be all encompassing from start to finish and whatever experience happens at my venue should then stay there.

Davi contacted us and we spoke to him, reinterating the rules of the venue and said he was welcome to return.

When he did return he and the girl in question immediately had words and she came out complaining that she did not want to do the booking. We convinced her to keep her end and when he left we politely asked that he did not return due to the fact we had spoken and he chose to ignore it.

Unfortunately for someone who is apparently threatening I take the girls side.

The lady is in question is now deceased.

There are rules for a reason and once again it is my prerogative from previous experience on what to enforce and what not as is any business owners.

The ban was not indefinite it was to enforce the point that there are rules and I am entitled to have them.

Just remember that plain and simple if there is a trail then it leads back to me when your wife, cousin, aunty uncle comes knocking this policy is there to protect the masses and not exclude a few. I have no way of knowing who is in what position in their lives because I do not interview my clients therefore a blanket rule applies.

Should Davi follow the rules he is welcome back with a clean slate.

Regards
Sean
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Posted: 2012-06-01 10:47:30

Dear Fellow Punters, I have followed this thread with increasing dismay, and although I don't post often am today urged to give my "2 cents worth".

Now, I am not personal or casual friends with the owners or involved in their business in any way. Just a punter like many of you who enjoys being in the company of beautiful women offering massage services.

In all the years of visiting Divine I honestly never encountered a problem with hygiene and cleanliness. In my humble view, postings referring to these factors have created obvious negative and sometimes very cruel punter reactions, and must have harmed Divine's business in some way. This, to me is understandable although cannot help but wonder if some postings are a little unsubstantiated.

Sean, Sam, Gran and the ladies were also always polite and friendly to me. Most of the girls also gave great massage services, (one or two I didn't enjoy)but not one of them ever complained in my presence about being badly treated.

It is true that some punters have posted previously about their negative experiences there, but I think that this is a natural occurance in all businesses. Maybe the Manager's there are also not eveyone's cup of tea - this is also understandable.

What has kept me away from them since March was the enormous increase from R 450 to R 600 for the hour sessions, and that all of my favourite ladies had since left their employ.

I am hoping that good decisions, sense, honesty and humility prevails from everyone concerned so that this thread dies a speedy death and Divine and their girls can get on with their business.

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