have your liver and pancreas tested , both play a crucial role in most cases of depression and if caught early can be fixed relatively quickly , if you ignore it it will eventually turn to cancer

* You are the boss.

* You can do this.

* You are taking control of the universe and you will not allow it to control you.

* Increase your levels of oxytocin by hugging more often...there are otherways of increasing oxytocin as well.

* Let her massage you before sex as this will relax you and allow more oxytocin to be released due to her magical touch.

* Dont hold onto the depression... so for starters let yourself forget about it at certain intervals especial during the visit to the lady.

* Try an MG who does edging.

* When you meet the lady add a touch of humor so for example ask her how she is today and then ask her how she was yesterday and then ask her how she will be tomorrow because you were not with her yesterday and you will not be with her to tomorrow hence the reason your asking...she will laugh and she will make you laugh.

* Sorry no time left for more points.

So as I sit here in the waiting room of my psychiatrist, I'll add my 2cents.
Your feeling are what I felt back when I started 12 years ago. A punt is usually followed by regret and shame.
Skip forward a few years.
I have been in my fair share of meds and I am both for and against them, they should not be taken lightly, exercise is indeed the better option, especially running, that's why those guys are so addicted they get lots and lots of endorphins and dopamine.

Punting gives you a good shot of a few chemicals, adrenaline, oxytocin, dopamine.... So you can understand the more you do it the more you will want to do it. It is a feedback loop, a quick fix. Don't use punting just as a form of self medication.
It can in the correct way in the correct frame of mind be fun and good to de stress, and a way to reward yourself. Unless you are in a relationship in which case it is a bit more complex.

On 2019-09-12 14:12:04 Juicy Pussy Slayer said:
* You are the boss.

* You can do this.

* You are taking control of the universe and you will not allow it to control you.

* Increase your levels of oxytocin by hugging more often...there are otherways of increasing oxytocin as well.

* Let her massage you before sex as this will relax you and allow more oxytocin to be released due to her magical touch.

* Dont hold onto the depression... so for starters let yourself forget about it at certain intervals especial during the visit to the lady.

* Try an MG who does edging.

* When you meet the lady add a touch of humor so for example ask her how she is today and then ask her how she was yesterday and then ask her how she will be tomorrow because you were not with her yesterday and you will not be with her to tomorrow hence the reason your asking...she will laugh and she will make you laugh.

* Sorry no time left for more points.

Some good points

With all due respect @JuicyPussySlayer, that's not great advice!

I was depressed for a long time, at the time, I did not know I was depressed.

My life was spiralling out of control, I was retrenched, my wife got cancer, kids were in trouble at school ... just shit everywhere I looked.
I started visiting strip cubs, gambling, using alcohol etc just to deal my "blues" - nothing helped. In fact it got worse.

My sister stepped in to help me get professional help from a therapist. After a few sessions I stopped the destructive behaviour.

Within 6 months I was off the medication, I started exercising (running) and after a few more months things started going better for me. Every day is hard, but I know my triggers and how to behaviour/react to them.

Please seek help, it's expensive but try to spend your money on that rather than punting.

I was against therapy because it seemed un-manly, and I was embarrassed that I could not deal with my shit.

My learnings from my journey to date:
- Punting will never fill the void, it's just a waste of money and you feel real shame and self loathing, which makes it worse;
- talk to someone either a close non judgemental friend or a professional if you can afford it;
- exercise, do some thing anything, just get outside, get your body to get the chemicals right in your body;
- ear better, healthier and balanced meals;
- break or stop "bad" habits which make you feel shame, guilt, or which you berate yourself for afterwards;
- try to find the root cause to your depression and work on improving it (mine was low self-esteem); and
- find a support group to talk with.

Please PM me if you want to chat about it.
Depression is real and everyday is a battle but knowledge about who you are, helps you protect yourself.

Great post, DevenM.

On 2019-09-12 15:11:06 DevenM said:
With all due respect @JuicyPussySlayer, that's not great advice!

I was depressed for a long time, at the time, I did not know I was depressed.

My life was spiralling out of control, I was retrenched, my wife got cancer, kids were in trouble at school ... just shit everywhere I looked.
I started visiting strip cubs, gambling, using alcohol etc just to deal my "blues" - nothing helped. In fact it got worse.

My sister stepped in to help me get professional help from a therapist. After a few sessions I stopped the destructive behaviour.

Within 6 months I was off the medication, I started exercising (running) and after a few more months things started going better for me. Every day is hard, but I know my triggers and how to behaviour/react to them.

Please seek help, it's expensive but try to spend your money on that rather than punting.

I was against therapy because it seemed un-manly, and I was embarrassed that I could not deal with my shit.

My learnings from my journey to date:
- Punting will never fill the void, it's just a waste of money and you feel real shame and self loathing, which makes it worse;
- talk to someone either a close non judgemental friend or a professional if you can afford it;
- exercise, do some thing anything, just get outside, get your body to get the chemicals right in your body;
- ear better, healthier and balanced meals;
- break or stop "bad" habits which make you feel shame, guilt, or which you berate yourself for afterwards;
- try to find the root cause to your depression and work on improving it (mine was low self-esteem); and
- find a support group to talk with.

Please PM me if you want to chat about it.
Depression is real and everyday is a battle but knowledge about who you are, helps you protect yourself.

That's the best advice I got so far. I was(still am) on a self-destructive path. Its like I make all wrong decisions intentionally and only feel bad later. I wanted to see a therapist but I am scared to say that I am unstable/abnormal/crazy. Thank you. That was sound advice.

Maybe go see a therapist who work with Jung psychology and dream therapy. As the soul speaks a language of it own when you dream and will give you insight into what you need to address to heal the experience and situation if you pay attention to your dreams and keep a diary.

As well as reading up on the dark night of the soul and what those symptom are.

Also the secret of the shadow and owing your whole story regarding the emptyness and wanting to fill the void.By Debbie Ford

Resident depressive at your service.

- Keep away from the short-term fixes (alcohol, drugs, gambling and punting to feel better), these things do not help.
- Exercise is a good idea as it creates endorphins naturally. Get into a regime.
- This one is difficult if one of your symptoms is insomnia but I can't stress enough how much sleeping well can help. Don't beat yourself up if you don't get it right.
- Get outside, find a hobby. Something that can take your mind away from things.
- Speak to someone, therapy is good and people who do therapy are cool. There's nothing wrong with it at all.

Getting into the quack side of things (for any doctors here)
- Light antidepressants can help to get you moving again. They've never worked for me beyond that, I agree that they just deal with your symptoms and not your root cause.
- Getting to your root cause and understanding why you are depressed is important (therapy and some introspection are great for this)
- Read "A man's search for meaning" if you are into books
- If you can find a root to your depression, work at first accepting that it is happening and then try to fix the bits of it that can be fixed. Forgive yourself for the bits you have no control over.
- Related to the above, try to find the parts of your life you feel don't meet your expectation. Somewhere there is likely the reason you're feeling the way you do.

Depression is difficult. You aren't weak because it's happening to you. Often it's because you've tried to be strong for very long.

Here a link to the symptom of a dark night of the soul

www.michaelmirdad.com/dark-night-of-the-soul/