On 2019-09-18 09:36:12 johndoe69za said:
On 2019-09-18 08:21:41 ystervark said: On 2019-09-18 08:16:04 martinm said: I travel a lot overseas and believe me that SA is relatively expensive now - food in shops overseas is the same price as here!





help me understand relatively expensive yet costs the same ?

Earnings are higher, therefor relative to total earnings the price is less expensive

tnx.

Just been overseas (Europe) and found the supermarkets to be on average 20% cheaper than here. BUT food at restaurants, even MacDonalds (if you want to call it a restaurant) are more expensive.

So labour is MUCH more expensive there. Which makes restaurant prices high.

It was eye opening how we have slow boiled into thinking we are still cheap when a average basket in the supermarket there was cheaper than here.

On 2019-09-18 10:18:32 hugefunforu said:
Just been overseas (Europe) and found the supermarkets to be on average 20% cheaper than here. BUT food at restaurants, even MacDonalds (if you want to call it a restaurant) are more expensive.

So labour is MUCH more expensive there. Which makes restaurant prices high.

It was eye opening how we have slow boiled into thinking we are still cheap when a average basket in the supermarket there was cheaper than here.

I agree, spent a month in Portugal and Spain, I only spent 10 days in a hotel (conference), the rest was with locals I had met and interacted with......and I couldn't beleive it!! good 'ole South Africa is MUUUCH more expensive in sooo many aspects. In Portugal even the restuarants were cheaper than here.. eating what/where the locals eat. Beef and hard alcohol is expensive but your basic groceries... cheaper

On 2019-09-18 10:18:32 hugefunforu said:
Just been overseas (Europe) and found the supermarkets to be on average 20% cheaper than here. BUT food at restaurants, even MacDonalds (if you want to call it a restaurant) are more expensive.

So labour is MUCH more expensive there. Which makes restaurant prices high.

It was eye opening how we have slow boiled into thinking we are still cheap when a average basket in the supermarket there was cheaper than here.

Agree 100%.

I went to Lisbon for the first time in my life.
For me going there is unaffordable even for me in my own country is a struggle.
Although the supermarket I've been at wasn't to bad with prices.
But you pay through your a## at restaurants.
The rate they pay the workers is so different from ours... even the people who gets a minimal salary has better purks then us.
Like I said everything goes up in Banaland but we are getting less paid or even retrench.
We as south African people are paying for other people's mistakes.

Meg

Lisbon is generally quite expensive even by Portuguese standards.... until you figure out where the locals go. The Northern areas (Porto) are more industrialized, but the south (Algarve) is amazing, small villages friendly people terrific climate and really affordable. Very few 'American' style franchises and chain restaurants is more centred on Individual owned and run restuarants, and often they specialize with limited menus, saving on overheads and stock needing to be carried. And everyone knows what speciality is... so if you feel like a specific dish ..you go to specific place. Luis Frangos in Sao Bras!!!!!! (Chicken Louis) is charcoal barbecued chicken.. you can watch them doing it!

What's it cost to go to a fancy restaurant in the East Rand nowadays? Tell me under R150...

$$$$

On 2019-09-18 13:19:59 DropKick said:
What's it cost to go to a fancy restaurant in the East Rand nowadays? Tell me under R150... $$$$

Unfortunately,all chicken franchises have moved!

as someone who is also only in SA 3-4 times a year I can also see prices went up quite a lot in the last 3 years. Its still very affordable if you earn $$, actually a bargain if I look at what I can get a decent steak for :-)

On 2019-09-18 13:19:59 DropKick said:
What's it cost to go to a fancy restaurant in the East Rand nowadays? Tell me under R150...

$$$$

At R150 u going to a mediocre restaurant at best.... when I go out with the wife and 2 kids my bill is very rarely under R1000

On 2019-09-18 15:04:01 slum_o said:
On 2019-09-18 13:19:59 DropKick said: What's it cost to go to a fancy restaurant in the East Rand nowadays? Tell me under R150...

$$$$

At R150 u going to a mediocre restaurant at best.... when I go out with the wife and 2 kids my bill is very rarely under R1000

You also paying a premium for slumo certified meat/food