On 2015-11-05 17:21:48 jon blogs said:
You guys are making light of this but I don’t think the OP was joking. I think he was being serious.
ESA doesn't the allow discussion of drugs and/or crime and yet ESA has allowed this sick shit on the forum.
Incest is almost always sexual abuse. Incest is not normal sexual activity.
This guy is only 8 posts in and should still be moderated.

On 2015-11-05 17:58:05 Just_Saying said:
I'm with jon blogs on this. Utterly sick, disgusting topic. I'm sure it is an affront to most members on this forum who are parents.

Of course you get the one or two saints on their high horses and in their ivory towers who look down upon us mere mortals with our kinks and unusual sexual proclivities. This isn't a place to judge. Live and let live. If the oke wants to pomp his sister who are you to stop him? This isn't the NG Kerk Forum :D

Stiffler333 you should have a chat with someone who has been on the receiving end of this type of behaviour and let them tell you how it damaged them. This is a big mistake that you are even entertaining the idea and you are already losing the respect of your fellow punters and the ladies. Still the question follows if you possibly may have already been involved in such behaviour under the radar?

I so agree with Doubleslappedass. Porn is staged drama. And when guys can't distinguish the difference between drama and real life....ooh heh eh.
Reminds me of a story my Gran once told of a woman in their prayer group who prayed for Bobby Ewing.
And I agree with Michelle. I've met a lady who now works the streets whose dad had friends watch him do her. She's a street-walker today, ruined by drugs.....When her ex told me her story I asked why would she NOT be a druggie. She tells stories of her father in glowing terms (cos thats how she imagines things should've been) but every now and again, while she's drunk or high, the sordid truth comes out.

Sick jokes are one thing, but reality is another. Someone very close to me was raped by her own father when she was a teenager. Good thing the fucker is not in SA, otherwise I'd quite happily arrange a "mishap" to happen on him ...

AN ABSOLUTE NO TO PARTICIPATING, NOT EVEN OBSERVING or WHATCHING SEX IN ANY MANNER with:

- CHILDREN.

- ANIMALS

- FAMILY.

NO GOOD CAN EVER DERIVE FROM SUCH PRACTICE!

Valentina Dibella

Even if all participating in such practice are 'consenting parties' STILL AN ABSOLUTE NO!

Normally an individual become a consenting party in such abnormal practice as for example "sex between mother and son" after been repetitively twisty brainwashed and psychologically abused to a mind that becomes broken and compartmentalised to believed and accept is normality in such practices

No daughter become a consenting adult that likes having sex with her father by any normal and natural means!!!!!

And the animal? That one have no say in it?

It has always freaked me out when people stifle anothers opinion and on this forum their sexual fetishes, I have always hated the bannings and corrective measures that eddie has imposed on us.

Basically I am for freedom of speech and I believe that by talking and listening a lot is learnt!

But this topic pushes my boundaries!

@jtrdbn, its precisely because the vast majority of the population has a "live and let live" attitude, that baby rape, incest, sexual abuse/rape and bestiality is so rife in this country. Its far easier to turn a blind eye, when it does not affect you directly, than to stick out your neck and condemn such practices and to do something about it when you see or suspect it is happening.

If a person is not repulsed by the mere thought of incest, or is being PC or indifferent about such things, then in my eyes, such a person condones such behavior.

As Valentina has so rightly said, consentual sex when it comes to incest, is the result of non-concentual sex initially and lots of psychological and sexual abuse prior to the "consentual sex".

I have a friend who was abused by her father as a teenager and it has totally fucked her up emotionally. So yes, I WILL publicly judge and condemn such practices. Does it make me a saint? Certainly not, but it does make me a human being, who can distinguish between whats right and wrong.

@@just_saying well said

Dear Abu-Shaytaan,

There is a time stamp next to your username. Please do not do that.

Regards,

Jemma Daniels
ESA Office Manager
010 013 0067