Eish, maybe they have a specific issue with African men then. EZIGUY is the Harem more like a venue where the girls are just paraded around and you pick one (ala Sandton Playerz for instance) or is it Gentleman's club with booking available sort of deal. I get the appeal of the latter. [/QUOTE]

The writing is on the wall I suppose...

Fboy, it's a venue much bigger and nicer than SP. You can sit at the bar and get a feel for the ladies or you can ask for a line-up. I have not done the bar thing so I cannot tell you what that experience is like.

This racist behaviour should not be allowed by venues advertising on this site. The establishment should not be deceitful in their response. Sugar coating blatant disrespect for a specific race group/groups.

They should clearly state BLACK/DARK SKINNED CLIENTS ARE NOT WELCOME!!!!!!

Escorts at this establishment will not acknowledge and engage with you.

DISGUSTING the Management, Staff and Escorts should be ashamed of themselves.

On 2016-08-11 00:54:38 Indian Courtesan Lalita said:
This racist establishment should not sugar coat their response.

They should clearly state BLACK CLIENTS ARE NOT WELCOME!!!!!!

Escorts at this establishment will not acknowledge and engage with you.

DISGUSTING the Management, Staff and Escorts should be ashamed of themselves.

If it truly is the case, I have to agree with you. However I have come to realize through all the chats on this forum that people think the 'preference argument' is an acceptable answer that negates racism, so your probably going to get long winded sorry excuses as to why this is not racist but a some sort of 'choice'. Hahaha I guess the National Party should have said choosing to let black people not vote was our 'personal choice.' then it would have been okay lol.

Oh that sounds epic. I need to go there soon. The punting animal on my shoulder is growing again... I need to feed him SOON.

Not the first time this happened to Black and dark skinned Indian clients of mine. When they call to enquire they are told to come through.

Once they there they get treated as non human. Get told that the ladies have a right of admission policy that does not cater for the clients race group. The management and staff must take great pleasure in humiliating non white clientele.

They only allow a few non white punters who punt their venue on the forum to sample all the wares and promote the ladies at their venue on the forum.

There are a few ladies that provide service to non white clients, not in the same league as the others though, but they also won't attempt to come and make banter/socialize, strictly business unlike for the other patrons. Even the massage only ladies are off limits, imagine that. Just some advice, in SA the non-white middle class is going to be if not already the biggest players in this industry . Thus acknowledge the negative feedback and see if it can be addressed. Maybe your establishment is just lucky, but it is probably not sustainable. From the response it seems as though the discrimination is condoned by the establishment, hence you cannot blame the ladies. Rather advice them on these facts and help them change there ways.
For those of you that see non-whites there, it's nice to be on the other side socializing and chatting with the ladies while the rest of us come and have a drink by ourselves, if lucky do the deed and leave. The environment is just not accommodating, I would rather go to a place where I'm treated like any other client that has some cash to spend.

Lalita, I posted a similar response in a ROAR thread sometime this year or late last year, I can't recall. It was not directed at HOE, but at venues in general should this industry be legalised. Those posts of mine were dismissed and brushed off as hogwash. If one has been punting for quite sometime, you'll know, through trial and error, which venues to avoid on othe other side of the boerewors curtain.

I don't want to generalise, but I'm glad I gave PTA a miss because I almost moved there from CT. if gents don't mind the drive, they should just go to SP or The Harem.

Had the same experience. Got there, the lady that got me at my car showed me around but one of the security guys was constantly around reporting back to someone. Felt like I was a criminal to be honest. Anyway paid the admission, had a drink, got the list of the ladies that were available. Surprisingly none of the ladies I had the urge to see were available and only a handful were going to be available 3-4 hours after I got there. Had my drink, tipped the waiter and left.

From HOE -- I have Lived with the Thought Process that any Advertising is Good Advertising --So on that Note Thanks for Thinking about Us .

HOE is located in Pretoria East -- the population in our area just as any other has a lot to do with our clientele based on convenience .

WE are Open to the Public & anyone is Welcome to visit --

Lalita all your info is obviously 2nd Hand --YES ???

HOE Ladies just as all others have the RIGHT & should be Respected as such.

HOE would obviously benefit Financially if all of our Ladies had NO RACIAL PREFERENCES -- so in stating that - HOE is obviously on the NO Restriction Side --But at the Expense of NOT having the Selection of Ladies that we currently have if WE Dictate & make things Mandatory -- Respect must be Both Ways in this Industry & Unlike Many Operations we Do Respect & Treat Our Ladies accordingly -- Yes Money is a Motivation --But Long Term Respect will accomplish that as well.

086-118-8825

J-Man -Sounds like a Bond Movie -- Did our Security have an ear piece as well ???

Sorry to say Factually --Our Security Guards are there to ensure that our Ladies & Clients have a Comfortable feeling while at HOE -- Not to SPY on anyone -- For what purpose would they Follow You around-- " Everyone is Welcome at HOE " we have great Food & our drink prices are very reasonable --

TRUE -- that unfortunately All our Ladies have their Racial preferences -- An Individual Choose from their side Not Ours . Yes we do Respect it --

Sorry if You felt Un-Welcome is that is Not our Intent at All

086-118-8825