On 2018-05-07 21:41:23 VeteranPunter said:
On 2018-05-07 13:32:22 Mynx said:

......the notion that I have to pay for ETERNITY for something I did for a few years, never worked in my mind. A parent doesnt punish a child for the rest of its life cause it was naughty at age 2. Even society say criminals paid their dues after a certain time lapse.
And if you still identify with any religion or country, you are still asleep as to your true state of being.
Kisses, Mynx


I agree with you 100%. What kind of asshole does he have to be preparing a hell for people before even creating said people.

It is crazy that in 2018 there are still people out there believing in some imaginary sky daddy. All religions were invented my man. Man invented God, there was no God that invented man. The last time I mentioned this, some delusional WG attempted to convince me that "quantum physics" proves the existence of god. Even worse, a punter who is considered an intellectual, mentioned that it is deep philosophy that makes him believe in god. Ironically his religion not only forbids sex outside of marriage but also being in the company of women who is not your relative or your wife. Seems his philosophy is not deep enough to respect his so called god's teachings. As many hypocritical religious punters do. Just like Bill Cosby, the ever good christian who secretly for decades was just another rapist.

To be truly free, one has to let go of all this superstitious shit. Religion and the invention of god was the very worst acts of man.

As for reincarnation:

scienceblogs.com/omnibrain/2007/04/06/hey-do-you-believe-in-reincarn/

Yep ....human nature seeks proof before believing whether we like to admit it or not .. this whole subject on god and his existence is subject to a matter of opinion ....we should not judge believers nor should we judge non believers ....simple principle of live and let live .

But there is also certainly things that science cannot justify ....

There is also an element of spirituality that defies logic that we seek

Call what you want to call it but life has a way of teaching us things . People who tend to pose pain and suffering on others eventually end up on the flip side of the coin ....this concept applies to many things in life .....it's not necessarily a punishment of sorts but assists in aiding people to evolve is some way ....Not saying that it works with all people but you gotta be really screwed up to not take heed of life lessons .....

Not trying to offend the religous. If that's what you need, then that's your journey and I respect it. I was one many years ago. But now that I am spiritual. This makes more sense.



"Religion is for people who are afraid of going to hell."

"Spirituality is for those who have already been there."

Vine Deloris, Sioux

We all have our own personal, different understandings of our own individual personal journeys. Whether religious or spiritual. We all also experience different ways and levels of growth. The best we can do is to try and understand that those levels of growth are unique to each soul. It is absolutely impossible for us to grow at the same level, in any given time, or on the exact same timeline. We all have our own path. Be not judgemental, offer guidance where you can. Humbly accept that each person needs to make mistakes, it's their journey, not yours. The best you can do is offer guidance from your perspective of your experiences! But always remember... no one other persons experiences or journey or lessons are ever or will be the same as yours?

We can all basically have the same experience, but the journey and outcome will never, ever be the same. The lessons, or gifts of knowledge, that we do pass on or receive in each moment as we connect with any another human being are exclusively meant for those in that moment.

You are unique! Always have an Attitude of Gratitude!

Namaste

Arz

On 2018-05-09 01:02:36 Arizona said:
Not trying to offend the religous. If that's what you need, then that's your journey and I respect it. I was one many years ago. But now that I am spiritual. This makes more sense.



"Religion is for people who are afraid of going to hell."

"Spirituality is for those who have already been there."

Vine Deloris, Sioux

We all have our own personal, different understandings of our own individual personal journeys. Whether religious or spiritual. We all also experience different ways and levels of growth. The best we can do is to try and understand that those levels of growth are unique to each soul. It is absolutely impossible for us to grow at the same level, in any given time, or on the exact same timeline. We all have our own path. Be not judgemental, offer guidance where you can. Humbly accept that each person needs to make mistakes, it's their journey, not yours. The best you can do is offer guidance from your perspective of your experiences! But always remember... no one other persons experiences or journey or lessons are ever or will be the same as yours?

We can all basically have the same experience, but the journey and outcome will never, ever be the same. The lessons, or gifts of knowledge, that we do pass on or receive in each moment as we connect with any another human being are exclusively meant for those in that moment.

You are unique! Always have an Attitude of Gratitude!

Namaste

Arz

I get what you are saying

Sometimes it's hard not to be judgemental especially towards people who do things to deliberately hurt you.
There are many people who I have known that have deliberately done things to others knowing full well the pain and hurt it could inflict on that person.
Would it be fair to say that such harshness is meant for that person in that moment in time ....I don't know .

But that's life I guess

"Would it be fair to say that such harshness is meant for that person in that moment in time ....I don't know . "

Most people only wake up upon experiencing pain. Some need more pain than others, in order to wake up. And then still some more, end up being addicted to the pain, in stead of waking up. (Fabulous clip by Eckhard Tolle:https://youtu.be/duWcMzC_5Bs)
Aaaaand....in order for the one that needs to receive the pain, to receive it, there must be somebody that dishes it out. (The story of the "little soul" and the "good soul" from Conversations with God, springs to mind)
What is important, is having the courage to face your own bullshit, as the SITUATION never gets better, YOU do. YOU learn to transcend it.
Kisses, Mynx

"Humbly accept that each person needs to make mistakes, it's their journey, not yours."
I got a new perspective on this, last week, whilst reading Osho. He explains that we have upsidedown perspectives, like fishes in water looking at a man standing at the edge of the water. They firmly believe his feet are on top and head at bottom. Then one day, one fish manages to jump out the water and see the man the right side up. The same way, he says, the spiritual laws are upside down according to our current perception. As humans, first we learn a lesson (at school for instance) THEN we get tested (exam). In LIFE, First we get tested, THEN we learn the lesson.
Now, we tend to believe that we "failed" the test, therefore we learnt the lesson. Yet, we NEVER learn he lesson until we failed it and exlerienced the pain.
So, now I propose: the seeming "failure" is exactly what must happen. It's our view that is upside down.
And with this new view comes more complete surrender and understanding and acceptance, and thus joy.
Kisses, Mynx

In my previous life is was married to one on the SP's advertising her services in the Purple World. But I'm not sure if it counts, as it was not that long ago.