@gary_g

It makes a huge difference in whether you experience a passionate FH or GFE and whether it feels mechanical.

If the punter does not make an effort, I can quarantee that the experience will feel rushed and mechanical.

This logic is sound

[QUOTE;801671;gary_g] And if an escort is not comfortable with hygiene, appearance, etc. then don't accept the booking and offer the money back. But don't provide an inferior service. That's just courtesy and common sense.[/QUOTE

And if you are not happy with Esa banning an SP. delete your account and move on somewhere else.

We all have different opinions, accept it an move on or delete your account on move somewhere else.

Practise what you preach.

I disagree Gary. If the punter's hygiene is bad and she refuses him, he should still pay her

1. He has wasted het time
2. He has no respect for her
3. He has no self-respect

How is that her problem?

Yewrev, that has nothing to do with this topic.

@pussylover That is a valid point, and perhaps the way to deal with the situation as an escort is to explain the reservations about performing GFE, offer a shower to the punter or offer a FH without GFE, or accept a cancellation fee.

But you are making some assumptions about the punters. While there are some appalling punters, there are also some appalling escorts who do not provide what they advertise. Thankfully, the escorts are a very small minority, and hopefully it is the same with punters. When I book, having experienced some bad escorts, I ask specifically about kissing, for instance. I sometimes get a "it depends" response, and that's fair. I always bring my A game in terms of grooming and hygiene: that's just common sense, too.

Gary, the problem is that certain hygiene issues can't be cured by a simple shower, although I agree that these are probably extreme cases.

Where the GFE is concerned, I still believe that a connection and chemistry is important. Sometimes, no matter the effort by the girl or guy, these two things are not present and the experience not great. In that case I accept it and move on without the expectation of a refund or anything else. I simply don't return and there is no need to give a negative review.

@pussylover007 - you've circled back to the extreme view (IMHO) that SPs can advertise a service, but pick and choose who to provide it to based on the 'personal chemistry' present.

Would you accept a massage provider who advertises 'happy endings', but you find out on visiting that she considers there to be no 'chemistry' present between you and declines to provide the service? Of course not...

FH ladies who wish to base the intensity or passion of their offering on the 'chemistry' with the punter should just not advertise GFE, or if they do, expect a damning review if that experience is unreasonably withheld if they don't offer a refund.

GFE means one thing: to be treated, as Smokie originally said, like a girlfriend would treat you. All of my girlfriends kissed and cuddled. Simple and understandable. Of course, the provider can reasonably refuse to start the booking based on hygiene, etc. It looks like we will agree to disagree, so let's not argue it any further.

I think Smokey wanted SPs to answer who do provide genuine GFE. Let's let him get those answers from advertisers who choose to respond.

I offer true gfe. I enjoy the whole French kissing which is also part of foreplay....it does set the mood.

Looks like a visit to Laydene is on the cards then, strange that Laydene is the only lady stepping up and saying she offers the GFE experience. I thought that more would have.

On 2017-08-14 16:34:45 smokie1962 said:
Looks like a visit to Laydene is on the cards then, strange that Laydene is the only lady stepping up and saying she offers the GFE experience. I thought that more would have.

Sounds like we are going to have fun.....

Nadia, Enhle and Lola responded, too, Smokie. Sorry to have contributed to derailing your thread.