On 2024-12-10 18:35:05 Payton said:
Hi all I know this is a long shot but I'm just gonna type it up and just leave it here... Maybe the right person sees it
Soooo lol
I want a car and I'm willing to trade my services for it we can make a deal and discuss how many months or years this deal will stand for and we can make an affidavit aswell for our agreement
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
Your awesome
On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
On 2024-12-11 13:32:20 2old2 said:
On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
Certainly if you have a lawyer who is willing to draw up a contract of agreement between two parties it would be legal and binding. You only need to state in exchange for services rendered you don't have to mention the services.
On 2024-12-12 04:22:18 Arhwen said:
On 2024-12-11 13:32:20 2old2 said: On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
Certainly if you have a lawyer who is willing to draw up a contract of agreement between two parties it would be legal and binding. You only need to state in exchange for services rendered you don't have to mention the services.
2old2 is correct.
@Arhwen, your suggestion to not mention the services also doesn't work and makes the contract vague and unenforceable.
Edited: 2024-12-12 05:04:30
On 2024-12-12 04:47:59 Lowden said:
On 2024-12-12 04:22:18 Arhwen said: On 2024-12-11 13:32:20 2old2 said: On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
Certainly if you have a lawyer who is willing to draw up a contract of agreement between two parties it would be legal and binding. You only need to state in exchange for services rendered you don't have to mention the services.
2old2 is correct.
@Arhwen, your suggestion to not mention the services also doesn't work and makes the contract vague and unenforceable.
I've had a incident where I've needed one and had no issues I don't see why it can't work for her infact I know a guy who is always willing to assist ladies in this industry. Not while this industry might not be legal there is always someone willing to assist and find loopholes.
Guys always try to deter us from going the legal route when in reality there is always someone willing to assist.
It makes me think of the guy that went round harming ladies for a long time some even lost their lives everyone said there is nothing that can be done because of this industry. What happened to the guy he ended up visiting the booking the wrong lady she kept his semen many ladies where scared to testify with good reason they feared for their lives this lady approached sweat and they helped her put the preditor behind bars and this time it was for good.
Ladies must stop being afraid because punters use this too their advantage and misuse the ladies.
Payton honey if you need I know a guy, don't let anyone prevent you from covering your own ass.
It's the same like girls who are afraid to lose their kids because of this business I know of a few women who actually kept their kids because this industry provides for the kids and they lack nothing. Yes the battle may have been a long tiresome one but the bottom line is they ended up keeping their kids.
Edited: 2024-12-12 06:23:16
On 2024-12-12 05:03:13 Arhwen said:
On 2024-12-12 04:47:59 Lowden said: On 2024-12-12 04:22:18 Arhwen said: On 2024-12-11 13:32:20 2old2 said: On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
Certainly if you have a lawyer who is willing to draw up a contract of agreement between two parties it would be legal and binding. You only need to state in exchange for services rendered you don't have to mention the services.
2old2 is correct.
@Arhwen, your suggestion to not mention the services also doesn't work and makes the contract vague and unenforceable.
I've had a incident where I've needed one and had no issues I don't see why it can't work for her infact I know a guy who is always willing to assist ladies in this industry. Not while this industry might not be legal there is always someone willing to assist and find loopholes.
Guys always try to deter us from going the legal route when in reality there is always someone willing to assist.
It makes me think of the guy that went round harming ladies for a long time some even lost their lives everyone said there is nothing that can be done because of this industry. What happened to the guy he ended up visiting the booking the wrong lady she kept his semen many ladies where scared to testify with good reason they feared for their lives this lady approached sweat and they helped her put the preditor behind bars and this time it was for good.
Ladies must stop being afraid because punters use this too their advantage and misuse the ladies.
Payton honey if you need I know a guy, don't let anyone prevent you from covering your own ass.
It's the same like girls who are afraid to lose their kids because of this business I know of a few women who actually kept their kids because this industry provides for the kids and they lack nothing. Yes the battle may have been a long tiresome one but the bottom line is they ended up keeping their kids.
I'm not sure what your examples have to do with anything, or how does it make the valid points of contract law 101 invalid. No one is trying not to help Payton. It would be fantastic if someone steps up and helps her and I sincerely hope that. But it's a fact that you cannot conclude an agreement for something that's illegal. For example you cannot write up a drug deal in a contract and if the drugs are not delivered as per the contract a court cannot make an order that the drugs must be delivered. If drug dealers could sue each other rather than resort to violence than there would be a lot less violence, but they cannot use the legal system as these are illegal "contracts". It's the same with sexual services. Also if you conclude a contract that states one party will deliver "services" for a car without specifying what the "services" are, and say Payton delivers the "services" and the other party negates the contract by taking away the car, Payton will have to prove in court that she delivered the "services" as stated in the contract which is impossible since there are no "services" specified in the contract. How can Payton prove, as she must as the claiming party , that she delivered in terms of the contract when the contract does not say what she was suppose to deliver? How can you prove that which is not set out?
But you are smart Arhwen and the rest of us are either dumb or out to con Payton or both.
Edited: 2024-12-12 06:50:15
On 2024-12-12 06:19:08 Lowden said:
On 2024-12-12 05:03:13 Arhwen said: On 2024-12-12 04:47:59 Lowden said: On 2024-12-12 04:22:18 Arhwen said: On 2024-12-11 13:32:20 2old2 said: On 2024-12-10 19:35:29 Arhwen said:
Please be careful rather do a legal and binding contract as I know a lady who did exactly as your request with affidavit and she still got the a rotten deal infact she no longer drives that car as one of ESA decent punters assisted her but needless to say she still has issues with the affidavit guy. Legal and binding is the best way to go.
I am not sure exactly how you put in place a legal and binding contract for a service that is illegal.
Our courts will not enforce a contract against public morality (contra bonos mores). They won't enforce a gambling debt unless with a licensed casino / betting operator (remember the punter who wagered his house). I can't see a court enforcing a contract that requires x number of blowjobs or fucks a month.
So give up on the idea of a contract protecting you (or the punter). Hopefully you can find someone trustworthy here to help you, but if it goes wrong - the law is unlikely to assist.
So a contract is not going to be any better (or worse) than an affidavit.
From a punter perspective: would you transfer ownership not knowing if the recipient will actually deliver, remain in a convenient location and insure and maintain the vehicle so if it does break down or get into an accident she will still have use and continue giving you the agreed services even if the vehicle no longer works. Or would you be happy for someone to drive a car registered in your name and be liable if s/he crashes into someone?
From a recipient perspective - what guarantee can you provide that you won't move and would you be happy with a vehicle in someone else's name (who could claim it back)?
Good luck to anyone who decides to try this.
Certainly if you have a lawyer who is willing to draw up a contract of agreement between two parties it would be legal and binding. You only need to state in exchange for services rendered you don't have to mention the services.
2old2 is correct.
@Arhwen, your suggestion to not mention the services also doesn't work and makes the contract vague and unenforceable.
I've had a incident where I've needed one and had no issues I don't see why it can't work for her infact I know a guy who is always willing to assist ladies in this industry. Not while this industry might not be legal there is always someone willing to assist and find loopholes.
Guys always try to deter us from going the legal route when in reality there is always someone willing to assist.
It makes me think of the guy that went round harming ladies for a long time some even lost their lives everyone said there is nothing that can be done because of this industry. What happened to the guy he ended up visiting the booking the wrong lady she kept his semen many ladies where scared to testify with good reason they feared for their lives this lady approached sweat and they helped her put the preditor behind bars and this time it was for good.
Ladies must stop being afraid because punters use this too their advantage and misuse the ladies.
Payton honey if you need I know a guy, don't let anyone prevent you from covering your own ass.
It's the same like girls who are afraid to lose their kids because of this business I know of a few women who actually kept their kids because this industry provides for the kids and they lack nothing. Yes the battle may have been a long tiresome one but the bottom line is they ended up keeping their kids.
I'm not sure what your examples have to do with anything, or how does it make the valid points of contract law 101 invalid. No one is trying not to help Payton. It would be fantastic if someone steps up and helps her and I sincerely hope that. But it's a fact that you cannot conclude an agreement for something that's illegal. For example you cannot write up a drug deal in a contract and if the drugs are not delivered as per the contract a court cannot make an order that the drugs must be delivered. If drug dealers could sue each other rather than resort to violence than there would be a lot less violence, but they cannot use the legal system as these are illegal "contracts". It's the same with sexual services. Also if you conclude a contract that states one party will deliver "services" for a car without specifying what the "services" are, and say Payton delivers the "services" and the other party negates the contract by taking away the car, Payton will have to prove in court that she delivered the "services" as stated in the contract which is impossible since there are no "services" specified in the contract. How can Payton prove, as she must as the claiming party , that she delivered in terms of the contract when the contract does not say what she was suppose to deliver? How can you prove that which is not set out?
But you are smart Arhwen and the rest of us are either dumb or out to con Payton or both.
As I said if she needs help in setting up a legal binding contract I know a guy.
As for the inslut you tried too swing my way. You sir can think what you want about me I actually don't care. I know who and what I am and that's what's important. You don't know me so your opinion about me means jack shit.
Good bye have a good day further.
Payton, i feel for you. But the last thing you should do is take legal advice from the clueless loudest voice. When you talk a lot and have an opinion on everything it is not necessary a well informed, factual based opinion.
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