Jhb north

Lothlorian - sandown

Spa juicy, ghq, blue sky - melrose

Iconique - sandton

Rivonia, fourways, midrand. None

Huge gap in market.

Only 1 thing Sean, make sure you buy the wider massage beds as the normal size ones are a bit small when there are 2 people on it. Your venue was really the only one that I went to and I would definitely patronise a venue if it is run by you.

I would definitely support a new venture, especially if in Jhb north. Dropping the no touching below waist (not necessarily meaning heavy, penetrative touching) will be a fabulous advantage!

Agreed. The no touching below the waist policy was a deterrent. Doesn't have to be penetrative but at least some teasing touching.

I get that the girls may not want to allow all punters to do so but maybe at least allow the girls some freedom to decide.

@muffhooh and @adultw0rk can either of you guess why I had that rule to begin with?

Regards
Sean

Hi Sean
Go for it!
We will support you big time in the North!
Set up the new Divine - per the old Bview model.
And you will be 'off to the races' with just how well you will do!
Really look forward to it!
Maybe you could get some of your previous team to join you as well?
Logan, Mandy spring to mind!
And some hot new faces / bodies as well please!
When / where are you opening buddy?

Why would anyone want to go for massage only service and still not respect the ladies boundaries? No touching below the waist means just that. If you want to touch below the waist, go for wgs instead.
Sean, stick to your no touching below the waist policy, most idiots will abuse that option if given.
Sean, stick to your rules. No below the waist touching of any masseuse in your new establishment.

Just because you ask doesn't mean you don't respect. In fact quite the opposite. I prefer to be upfront right off the bat to avoid offending a lady. Once boundaries are set they are respected.

Hey Guy's,

Well let me clear the no touching rule up really quick.

You see this is how it starts, heat of the moment the guy is touching and feels that this is okay and then he wants more, you see the line is not set so then he ends up forcing himself on her, or she enjoys it and after the fact cries rape.

In six years I had five girls "raped" (I place in inverted commas because if the boundaries where stuck to you never know which way it would have gone) a client wave a gun at me because a girl accused him of rape when she allowed touching according to him and countless incidents of having to throw clients out.

Now had the rules been stuck to then the boundaries are set and all parties are safe. It is for their safety and comfort as well as yours. The problem being that while some may be able to respect the boundary others cannot so we cut it and make it not a grey line but a very dark one that does not need to be crossed as it leads to problems.

A further issue is with the economy what it is some clients find it cheaper to come to a massage venue yet still expect the same service, they don't seem to understand that massage and full house are two different things and therefore once again the line needs to be drawn clearly.

So anyone who cannot understand why the rule exists then try live one day where someone has either forced themselves on a lady or a lady is accusing him of crossing the line out of guilt, it is the worst thing you will have to deal with as a venue owner hence the rule of no touching below the waste.

Regards
Sean

Hi Sean, do you control what the lady does behind closed doors ?
Been to a few massage venues, and on agreement there is FH on offer. How would you address this or are you willing to allow the lady to rule behind the closed door?
In saying the above, we sure do need a place of the stature of Devine when you ran this. Never met you but you come across as a person that knows and runs a great service for us punters that's always in need.