@Bbw Nadia...I'm sure there is, and no one is disputing that. But it would be nice to know when a popular advertiser is banned the reason behind that ban, especially where it involves accusations leveled by a former advertiser under the cloud of suspicion that surrounds Sharon.

That's a good question Garry. Who is going to pour me that Bells??
I believe that real friends should stood up for each other...

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Punters that know me very well know that I hardly have anything to say on the forum, but this matter is relevant to a lady working in my house. I, have been following this whole episode since it popped up last week.

I only want to post because you are all taking this issue much to far and since Veronica is banned from posting on the forum, I find it unfair that she is unable to speak for herself in this regard. The accusations are ridiculous to say the least which has led to many a good laugh in this house since then. We are all amused at the fact that she has been accused of being part of a hit squad . Veronica has also told me that she graciously accepts her banning from posting and the pm system as she accepts that few can handle her truths if the shoe fits. We see and interact with Veronica every day and most of you get the wrong idea and love to hate her, but contrary to what you may believe or want to believe, she embraces it because she understands most of you better then you realise.


That being said, this is what I know about the situation mentioned here according to what Veronica has shown me with regards to pms and correspondence since this issue with Sharon first came up:

Veronica wanted to help and protect a client who was being blackmailed by Sharon so she did not mention her name but rather sent all relevant info to esa and esa found the info strong enough to take their own measures to what they thought was appropriate. None of you were privileged to this information but trusted esa judgment when Sharon was banned, yet now the details are an issue for you when it concerns Shakira?

Veronica only asked for certain info on the girls forum to protect her client legally. She was not interested in Sharons whereabouts in terms of a hit as mentioned on Sharons email.

Veronica did not under any circumstances ask for Sharon's whereabouts or threaten her with a gun. Shakira in boxed Veronica saying that Sharon and her go to the same bar and that she might be able to ask around and maybe get the relevant info. Veronica and Shakira had already fallen out on the forum but Veronica found it to be very gracious of Shakira to still approach her with the gesture but never actually thought anything would materialise and left it at that.

The day that this all happened, we were not answering our phones because we were booked out for the whole day.

I woke up the next morning and received a WhattsApp from Veronica that she was banned from posting.... and then I read the Comical esa relief post from Eddie. I was beside myself with worry so I phoned Veronica to ask her what the f@ck is going on. Veronica thought maybe this was why she was banned from posting , but she called Antoinette to get the story straight and Antoinette confirmed that she was banned from posting temporarily as there are just to many complaints against her. She acknowledges it and accepts it. She has hardly been on esa in the past week unless we bring certain posts to her attention.

Veronica then noticed 2 missed calls from Shakira, one at around 5pm and the second at around 10pm one the day in question. She informed Matt about the attempted communications and that was the end of it!

I am curious to know if there was a video of this incident as Sharon stated in her email. It would clear many things up, perhaps even Shakiras banning. Maybe ESA has received this video and took appropriate steps with Shakira. What might be referred to as ludicrous or ridiculous is that Antoinette and Veronica were implicated in this bullshit. Is it Sharons imagination In her email or is it only in Shakiras imagination.... if this public display actually happened? Either way, Veronica, ESA and Antoinette were accused of very serious allegations.

If the video exists, then I'm sure esa has taken appropriate measures. Veronica only tried to protect her client and the next thing all hell breaks loose.


ESA has their own reasons to have taken the steps they did against Shakira according to the information they have been given other than some email from someone that is less than honest.

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Gosh we hijacked this but any way u can do so waiting on this to happen

The question is does Shakira get reinstated

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"Veronica wanted to help and protect a client who was being blackmailed by Sharon so she did not mention her name but rather sent all relevant info to esa and esa found the info strong enough to take their own measures to what they thought was appropriate. None of you were privileged to this information but trusted esa judgment when Sharon was banned, yet now the details are an issue for you when it concerns Shakira?"

Read the appropriate thread, Joy. The evidence was confirmed via Whatsapp by a poster, and confirmed by Matt. Sharon's banning was not taken on trust, and was announced openly. Shakira's was not, and no reasons have really been given, even privately.

"Veronica only asked for certain info on the girls forum to protect her client legally" "Shakira in boxed Veronica saying that Sharon and her go to the same bar and that she might be able to ask around and maybe get the relevant info."

So whatever happened at the restaurant, Shakira's aim is confirmed to be attempting to protect clients from an unscrupulous ex-advertiser...doesn't that deserve some sympathy and support from ESA?

"Either way, Veronica, ESA and Antoinette were accused of very serious allegations."

and Shakira was accused in the most serious way, you seem to forget or omit...as well as suffering direct and indirect consequences, all in the service of attempting to help to legally protect one of Veronica's clients

Let's hope the video does exist...

On 2017-07-26 15:34:21 Bbw Nadia said:
A lot more goes on on ESA than we know. And a helluva lot more goes on behind the forum. There's a whole lot more than you guys will ever know.

As Nadia said, you as clients are not included in everything that happens behind the forum.

Veronica was not even privileged to the info with regards to something her name was dragged into, which now includes Shakira's banning.

Everyone has their own version of events, but obviously Shakira has overstepped some kind of agreement or boundary with regards to ESA and got herself banned.

Veronica accepts her banning and doesn't cry about it to ESA or clients, knowing full well that she has overstepped her boundaries with ESA to some degree.

If Shakira has issue with her banning, she should approach ESA to sort it out herself and leave clients out of it.

Have you considered the legal implications and further damage this could have to both ESA and Shakira if such video does exist?

I'm sure ESA gets this all the time and knows when to keep information to themselves. Let them sort it out between them, because this doesn't concern any punter, especially if threats were made and this mater goes further.

Esa answers to nobody as they protect their own interests as a business. We all do.