On 2017-09-11 18:48:58 Veronica Franco said:
Why not rather choose the ladies yourself and tell them what you expect of them in a more discreet manner?

Time - that's what it all boils down to. Why spend hours trying to find something when you can get a shortlist via PM or on the open forum within minutes?

This is not unique to ESA - the same thing happens on other punting forums.

On 2017-09-11 19:38:52 Pseudonyms said:
On 2017-09-11 18:48:58 Veronica Franco said: Why not rather choose the ladies yourself and tell them what you expect of them in a more discreet manner?

Time - that's what it all boils down to. Why spend hours trying to find something when you can get a shortlist via PM or on the open forum within minutes?

This is not unique to ESA - the same thing happens on other punting forums.

The audience is very limited and there are so many advertisers that don't even read or contribute on the forum. You are therefore limiting your chances of a successful encounter I would imagine. I would have thought that half the fun in selection is going through the profiles. Why should we even bother then with all the picture updates etc on our profiles if you can't even be bothered to peruse it!

You may as well ask why some people have a personal shopper or a PA, yes I can do things myself but why should I if i can pay someone else to do the drudgery

Wow, it's no wonder I'm becoming more and more despondent.

Was this particular thread for a request from a service provider who can meet the requirements or are we starting to dig up graves?

Whichever peace of a puzzle one is hoping to find it better be a perfect fit.

On 2017-09-11 20:28:40 Kimmylee said:
Was this particular thread for a request from a service provider who can meet the requirements or are we starting to dig up graves?

Whichever peace of a puzzle one is hoping to find it better be a perfect fit.

Only the OP knows the answer to that question.

And if E123 decides not to let us be the flies in the room to see or better yet the four walls with ears. It is his choice, privacy and his pockets.

I just don't understand where some other irrelevant back and forth molted lava spews are coming from! This is simple. He requested, he jotted his preferences, he's doing his homework and probably in the process of completion and putting a stamp on it. Call Kimmylee a hypocrite I don't care. In this case it is not a marketing strategy on my part. "I always think out of the box".

By the way personally I have done it before not a week too long ago and conferred that experience without the punter asking for it (except that the script and props were slightly altered a bit) it was well and kindly appreciated with no ulterior motives whatsoever #TrueStory

In this case the standards are ranked higher which is not an impossibility to execute. Some lovely lady out there in JHB/PTA is willing to do it because they can. Then so be it!

Now E123 just do your thing! Lucky lady be yourself!

My R50! Not 2c!

Good on you, Kimmylee.
All the man did was politely post his preference and requested a particular lady or service (as many before have), only to be met by sarcasm and even insults.
As the Opening Poster says, "what is disconcerting is the constant abuse (some) ladies direct at the guys".
Maybe he should be thankful he didn't receive a few "boooooyaa(s)"

On 2017-09-11 17:19:35 Executive123 said:
On 2017-09-11 14:37:23 Climax said: its a pity I have short natural hair

Dear Madam,

Please have a look at the post again: I mentioned 'slick hair', not long hair (i.e. smooth, glossy)


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Well its safe to assume this thread had been derailed.

I have intentionally not replied to the many remarks. I wanted to see how this all unfolds. Interestingly, some that have taken a swing at me here, are in private chat trying to be friendly again (idle chatter stuff). Additionally, there are MANY gents here that have high budgets for requests like mine. And thankfully, there are MANY ladies here that have such services- and a few privates from referrals as well. Feel free to ask on this thread for a PM from them.

What I find disconcerting is the constant abuse the ladies direct at the guys. Eventually ESA, or us, will need to arrest this trend. Generally the ladies complain about the constant requests for lower fees: I upped the ante on the rates, but I also raised the bar - it's a two way street. My reply of money and build was obviously unexpected and didn't go down well: which i hope you guys are not made to feel second to anyone if you're slightly podgy or refuse to pay a certain rate!

Somebody asked me for R1k: if you really need it, send me a PM.

Buddy you're going to have an inbox full of people asking for R1K. Good Luck

Also please send me a PM with the list of ladies that would offer such services

On 2017-09-12 07:59:15 slum_o said:

Buddy you're going to have an inbox full of people asking for R1K. Good Luck

1. I haven't looked at the ESA rules in a while, but last I remember it wasn't allowed- though I'm in need of a PA on ESA again- especially after this thread :)

On 2017-09-12 07:59:15 slum_o said:

Also please send me a PM with the list of ladies that would offer such services

2. There's lots- maybe the ladies will PM you directly- otherwise drop me a message as a reminder later please.