I am not new to the game (although I admit at 40 I probably am much younger than most punters on here). I happen to use multiple sites and over time have discovered each has its own little pink "fridge notes" to watch out for before calling. I don't do venues out of security concerns (shit scared of raids).

I prefer running return punts, just gets both of us more and more comfortable each time, noticed it also naturally does improve the quality of the time spent. A lot of random quickies tend to feel quite mechanical to me ....

Rule of thumb just ask right from the start. Do you do other races? If no. Call the next girl. There are plenty to go around.

Why even respond to these threads anymore?
I would advise anyone to just say "please use the search fuction"

On 2017-05-31 16:54:37 zeltonb said:
Rule of thumb just ask right from the start. Do you do other races? If no. Call the next girl. There are plenty to go around.

I like the way you reason

On 2017-05-30 08:41:01 John_Benz said:
Morning folks,
I was a little surprised there are still WGs who offer their services exclusively on race of clients! My past punts couldn't be bothered (to even pick it up from my accent during the booking or maybe my accent aint so obvious).

I have travelled the world a bit and never encountered that problem. In fact most of the time it worked to quite an advantage because I ended up being a unique client.

Is this a unique feature to SA maybe as a result of past political history?

Dear John_Benz

Unfortunately race is something we can't do much about and it doesn't only apply to men only but to us advertisers too.

The first time it happened to me I was very offended when someone who doesn't know me or my background told me that I can't charge that amount because I'm black, in their minds it's like all black people are from poverty stricken backgrounds and don't deserve anything good.

Ignorant that some blacks grew up in good suburbs outside Jhb, had cars at home and went for good vacations like them. Even if someone grew up very poor, so what! Poverty doesn't define anyone.

To prove my point check what some guys are willing to pay white girls and what they think blacks deserve. Yes there's so many wonderful white men who see colour as nothing but colour and we get treated like queens.

We just have to make peace with it and appreciate those who appreciate us .......

Vanilla - totally concur!
People running this thread into "search and read up" have no clue how offensive it actually feels for a first time encounter with the phenomenon I will call it. Now I know not to bother looking further down the profile once a ROAR pops up at the top! No worries - Plenty of fish in the sea!

On 2017-05-31 21:04:08 John_Benz said:


Now I know not to bother looking further down the profile once a ROAR pops up at the top! No worries - Plenty of fish in the sea!

Dont be disheartened by that Bro. ROAR means different things to different people. Just continue with your quest and you just might get what you want . Theres a punter who once stated having bedded a WG for gas money, mind you the WG has a ROAR policy up there.

On 2017-05-30 15:56:01 John_Benz said:
Tango

I did not intend to politicise beyond a discussion about my unfortunate booking gone south. Let us leave your case to the experts LOL.

All I did was call up a lady who has a specific preference and got a thumbs down after she found out as we were discussing modalities that I wasn't her preference....

As I am not a local (but have punted in a few countries) it simply felt almost like an "Only-In-SA" experience as I had never
personally encountered it before hence my note!

Hey man, I don't think you used the word "modalities" in the proper context. I stand to be corrected. Anyone seen Ben?

I will never understand the people who say 'don't discuss this topic, it's been discussed to death'. Who the hell died and made you forum moderator. This is a platform for all esa members to share there views and discuss the burning issues they have. No one complains when you talk about how many HOE girls you've slept with or whatever. Who gives you the right to say that what a person wants to talk about is pointless or not worth it. You have no idea what another person's lived experiences have been. I just think there are a lot of people on this forum who think there OPINIONS are fact. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they're normally full of shit. If you don't like the topic, don't read it. If you don't feel like talking about it, don't reply. Simple as that, But the absolute arrogance of people coming on here and admonishing someone for doing something that is perfectly within their rights is astonishing to say the least.

On 2017-05-30 15:56:01 John_Benz said:

I did not intend to politicise beyond a discussion about my unfortunate booking gone south. Let us leave your case to the experts

Hey if this is your opinion or statement that you want to make. Do your thing. Don't mind the people on here. There modus operandi is to gang up. However very rarely can people respond to articulated arguments. Do your thing, the racists days are numbered anyway.