Another option is for an admin user to be able to click a button that marks a client as having transgressed. Clicking this button should then automatically send a form letter to the user via PM, quoting the message in question. If they have a problem they can contact you.

Once they get x number of clicks they are automatically banned.

Costs a bit of web dev, but should reduce the overall admin substantially. As it is just one click.

If assistance if needed with this web dev I can recommend someone.

/T

Does it really matter what language is used on this site?

This is a sex for sale site, I am here to buy sex. If the seller uses a language that I cannot understand, then I will use google translate if I am interested in that person's photos, or ignore it and just move on to the next seller. By using a language that not everyone can understand, the seller is reducing their market...that's their personal choice.

I am not at all interested in the mud slinging and gossip and inane word game threads, so who really cares what language they are written in.

Maam

As you are quick to ban on a one word violation, try a warning then a ban. Not much admin and qed [/QUOTE]

Dear sir

I am curious to know why a warning should be given when the rule is very clear and quite simple to follow.

Another question... If it is nothing to anyone what language gets spoken on the site then why is an English only site such a big issue?

Regards
Antionette
ESA support

I think the majority of users of the forum is not against the English only policy. What we are battling to understand is why being anal about it, banning transgressors for on or two words.

Is that not the administrative burden, you as admin want to escape from, and concentrate on more productive tasks, as you have mentioned in a previous responses.

I may be wrong, but think the one word transgressors, specially if it is a SP, has now become the target of other SP's. If a lady is banned it has a negative influence on her potential income, and the one reporting this to Esa admin do stand to possible gain from it.

People should be allowed to communicate in the language of their choice. Banning people for so doing seems completely out of touch.

Let's address the elephant in the room. The decision is grounded in being politically correct. Therefor this discussion is purely an opportunity to allow a minority but still financially significant group of punters and wgs who may be agrieved, to vent. There is not going to be any change.

So if feel you cannot live with this, the only option is not to use this forum or both the forum and ESA should you object in principle.

The view that the forum is not a money spinner for ESA is rather superficial, lacking in understanding of some improtant prnciples of marketing. The forum is actually a unique selling feature which sets ESA apart from competitors.


Banning tansgressors who are merely expressing themselves in a way that is common and constitutes everyday use of the English language in this country, in the short term , will not be hugely damaging to ESA. If anything it may have a bigger impact on the earnings of service providers.

Longer term,who knows what the exact impact on both parties will be.

There are many in this country that can not engage properly with others if not speaking on their on language.
I do understand how impossible would be to monitor a Chinese escort who decided to speak only Chinese on her profile sale page. She would probably have her market reduced to only people that speak that language, she would have not place reporting or complaining to the ESA office about any insult or verbal abuse she has receive from other's posts in her profile thread. If she accepted to advertise in a site whose home language she does not speak or understand because she still make good sales, she would have to be prepared to know that this would be a serious limitations to her business.

The public Forum:
While it is agreeable in all forums around the world, to have a basic language as main in all body of comments, and English makes a good one because beside been one of the officials languages in S.A, it is as well, the accepted official international and global language for all business and interchanges. But in any case, a phrase or few words of other language that is throw in the midst should not make it to a case of banning unless it is and insult, in which case ESA forum moderator have to rely on forum members for such transgression to be report it.

If an author of a thread makes his/her post in English, it is rude and makes no sense to answer in Arabic or French, and such thread should be basically interacted and responded in English, and if a member is responding to an English written thread it is because he or she does understand English and should not respond in any other language.
Hacking a thread and having a one to one full discussion on another language that is not the one of the owner of the thread should be prohibit; well hacking should be prohibited regardles the language used.

While I advocate for the use of the advertisers language on their own profiles, I am not sure if it is functional, wise or a good advise for ESA to have on the Forums entire threads on a language that it is not the official one of ESA where the founder and owner, and the moderators can not understand a word of what is going on in their own business. This is their business and we are the participants, but few words does not hurt anyone, most of the time, one's own language slips out unaware and unintentionally.

Should ESA decide to have entire threads on a different language to their official one on the forums, we can kill each other on our own language without intervention, we can insult each others and we can talk shit about a whole other group that does not speak our own without intervention and convert this forum into a disguised war zone.
I am not too sure that leaving humans to their own device at the present when it comes to manners, morals and respect is such a good idea, much less when the majority is disguised behind a pseudonysm and a fake name.
Online abuse and trolling is rampant and pervasive in the cyber space.

Kind Regards.

On 2018-07-03 17:19:37 Former_Vuyisile said:
With most of us, English not being our first language or even second for that matter, I suppose at times the real context is lost or gets weaker in an effort to try and stick to English at all costs. As jjsoap said, one word (maybe in quotes as he said or not) does no harm; instead the message context may be much clearer (maybe to most locals) especially if the word used is within the official language context. Not sure about international site visitors though; are they even a meaningful number?

With that said I believe if a word or phrase in Afrikaans is allowed, so should words or phrases in other official languages of SA to avoid perpetual outcries.

I absolutely agree with your statement.

Less than 10% of advertisers actually participate on the forum, and a similar number applies to the punters who review and post. Over the years ESA has stated on multiple times that the general discussion forum is a nice to have not a key business driver. Two syndromes are very evident, big fish in a little pond and an over exaggeration of what is essentially a storm in a tea cup.

The elephant in the room is that there was a discomfort with people posting in African languages, lets not shy away from it and start complaining about bannings because my observation is that most of the time people are being banned for posting an Afrikaans word. The rule should stay. This is the consequence for that initial discomfort, live with it. I cant help but get a sense of schadenfreude out of the whole situation.

Before someone snitches that Schadenfreude is an English word as per below:
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/schadenfreude

As mentioned the main problem is not the english only policy it is the fact that one gets banned for one word ( in my case an auto correct that I missed for which I had to pay R500 and still wait until the next morning to be able to answer my clients, who I lost as they never got back to me because I only responded a day later. So in the end I ended up losing way more than just the R500.) In the end would it not be better for ESA to rather put someone who understands Afrikaans and English behind the moderator screen than have a decline in punters and WG advertising with them? How many punters/WG are going to stick around if they constantly get banned which then makes they're add useless as they can't even get into they're inbox to reply? I can understand not being able to post on the forum for 30 days as a punishment but also taking away they're ability to send and reply to PM is taking it a bit far and basically forcing WG to then pay the R500 on top of the add fee just to get access to the inbox for which they already paid for by activating they're add.

Instead of just shooting down ideas, that you have asked for. How about finding a compromise? Meeting everybody halfway?