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Saffer - Re: Six Degrees of Separation
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Posted: 2015-11-09 21:57:08

@deamonza I doubt you grasped the nuance of my reply because your rant isn't remotely associated. Thanks for playing though.
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Posted: 2015-11-09 23:07:43

@deamonza,you are the best:) I have never meet you Mon ange,but you definitely an intelligent gent and I like beaucoups....
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Posted: 2015-11-10 11:24:24

Oops....
Sadly have to agree with saffer.
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[deleted] - Re: Six Degrees of Separation
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Posted: 2015-11-10 12:22:19

@Saffer...

What exactly did I fail to grasp...

"So if a client wants to visit WG's that only cater to whites they are bigoted? That's a morally superior attitude to assume."

Yes this is a bigoted position to take, it isn't a morally superior attitude... My analogy stands, you are being bigoted as you are demanding she comply to your racial bias in order of for you feel more comfortable.

"Every consumer in a free market has the right to choose how they want to be serviced. It has nothing to do with bigotry. Why should a punter be denied full disclosure, which denies him the ability to make an informed decision?"

This is true, up to a certain degree. You may demand she be clean, well presented and treat you well and ensure you are satisfied... That is all, you do not get to demand information on who she is seeing as clients and that her clients meet a racial standard.
Do you demand full disclosure to this degree from any other service provider, do you ask Vodacom or Standard Bank to only have white customers ? Of course not, so why would a WG be required to disclose the color of her clients.

"For those that continue to insist that it is racist to not want to punt or service clients across racial lines, consider this. If you have heterosexual sex only, does that make you homophobic, or is it your choice?"

When it is completely her choice... ROAR is a far and valid policy. That policy goes both ways, she may exclude people of different colors, she may include them... but always at her own discretion. You have no rights in this.
Financial blackmail does not make it her choice and this is wrong.

"Personally, it's a business, not politics. I expect to make informed decisions to ensure I'm getting what I want, whatever that may be. If a WG misrepresents herself to me, then that's the end of the commercial relationship. I'd much rather see more clarity."

There was no misrepresentation... Rossia accepted a african client, found out her preconceived notions were in fact incorrect and openly stated the change to her ROAR. It was perfectly clear.. Informed decisions are all very well and good but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking, you are asking a WG to specifically declare that she sees a certain racial group to suit your racial views and if not then you will not see her.
And yes, there are those who will exclude other races due to targeted marketing but that doesn't make it right. It means she must comply with the views of her main client group to ensure she retains them.
There is no free will there as she is not a WG for fun but to earn a living and survive and should she not comply comply with those demands then the clients happily walk away. This is not her choice, this is being forced on her to a certain degree and that is where I take issue. Any woman here may by her own free will chose who she takes as a client, it is not a decision that we should be allowed to affect.
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Posted: 2015-11-10 12:53:36

@deamonza I agree 10 and 0 percent that every WG have the right to choose who they wish to see.

Some wgs who used to be "slegs blankes" were nicely outed by K and Q who is charou and chinese (by their own admission) when they promoted them. I think the wgs who truely and really dont see others can be counted on one hand. eg Meg.

There are wgs who say no charous please but happily see blacks and chinese guys.

Besides Meg i cant think of other wgs who definitely dont see others.
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[deleted] - Re: Six Degrees of Separation
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Posted: 2015-11-10 13:21:29
Edited: 2015-11-10 13:24:08

I too did not go 'gaga' or applaud when Rossia made her announcement that she will be catering for all races.
Why ? Because it is not a ground-breaking announcement, as the vast majority of WG's rightly see all persons irrespective of race, creed or culture.
Will I see her ? Definitely not !
Why ? Because I still remember her distasteful actions and utterances which led to her being banned by ESA, postings on this forum, bordering on hate speech and threats to punters, from exposing them to the Hawks to threatening them with grievous bodily harm and even worse.
I hope that doesn't make me a racist or a bigot !
Having said that, one hopes Rossia gets her act together and this latest reinvention of herself is genuine and she resists distasteful, racistic and threatening postings (late at night), as she has in the past.


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Posted: 2015-11-10 17:03:28

I see the bear is back for attack again :) everybody run as fast as u can:)
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Posted: 2015-11-10 17:23:27

I am of a more charitable cast than is honeybear towards this charming lady.

The traffic on Malibongwe towards Northriding is a nightmare after work.
But I will make a plan to see Rossia.
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Posted: 2015-11-10 18:40:28
Edited: 2015-11-10 18:44:40

Seems like you missed the last part of honeybear's statement Rossia.

'Having said that, one hopes Rossia gets her act together and this latest reinvention of herself is genuine and she resists distasteful, racistic and threatening postings (late at night), as she has in the past.'

Hardly sounds like someone baying for your blood....

Rossia
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Posted: 2015-11-10 18:57:41

@10four,all he had to say, is«weldone,rossia,keep it up» as u know my English isn't that great. But thank you for explaining to me what he really meant :) you such a sweet heart....

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