Honesty, I see where management is coming from. (Unless this is a lie and they are pushing the agenda) In such a case their hands are tied, although then I agree with eziguy, they need to state that black people shouldn't come.

And then there's this doos.

On 2016-08-11 16:05:16 Panty_Dropper said:
Oh give it a rest now ffs

I don't know who died and made him forum king. We are having a civilised conversation dealing with our ratings of a venue and then comes the queen of England to dictate to us. If you don't like the discussion, just move on, no one's holding a gun to you.

I've been to HOE a few times and must state that I never had any bad experience. Just acknowledge that there are girls who do not see punters of other races. The ones that do will come to your table to talk as I've experienced. Maybe this venue is not for you. You may feel rejected. Take it like a man. Girls have their preference

And yes, there are some girls that will take a booking with Indians. I've had a few.

You can pm me if you want to go with me.

Totally agree with Panty_Dropper... this venue has been bashed enough now on the open forum.

Why not use the PM system guys? I am asking respectfully.

On 2016-08-11 15:13:16 Alcapo said:
Black Sparrow its not a demographics issue! Its an issue about the right ladies have to chose just like you and everyone else has the right to chose! Get used to it, ITS NEVER EVER EVER GOING TO CHANGE! DEAL WITH IT!

Did you miss the fact that the issue in regard to "population" was raised by HOE? Which is why I clearly stated that it does not make sense. Reading is important, you know.

I am talking about the venue since the representative from HOE stated that everyone is welcome irrespective of their race. Whoever the ladies decide to see is entirely up to them - stop trying to make it seem like HOE is the only venue that advertises on ESA that gives its escorts freedom of choice.

Your argument is flawed, and I won't dissect it to show you. Think before you post - just a tip.

Oh bugger I just have to give my two cents in this shit storm.

The ladies of HoE like any provider on the website can choose their clientele. Would you like to fuck someone who does not want to fuck you? I won't, I can tell you out of personal experience with my ex (pity fucks are not the best). So a lady doesn't want to accept your money because she does not like the color of your skin... fuck mate get over it and see another girl who does.

Remember the girls do banter with the clientele for business. If she sees your not going to book her or she won't have a booking with you she sure as shit is not going to talk with you. Although this is a thing management must talk to the girls about I have sat many a time feeling like a crunt alone at HoE. Alas managing +-20 girls and their personalities is no easy task.

The argument used for demographics I can assure you the place is not doing bad so boet they need not change in that perspective and don't get your panties in a bunch. If you seem so confident that that is what Pta East needs fokkit you have an awesome business plan right there and go for it.

As stated there are girls willing to see lads of color just ask?

I am very happy with the establishment with HoE and many a punter of color has been there and walked out with a happy face.

Lesson to be learnt from here is. If you want to book a girl that does not share the same skin color as you fucking call and ask if she does cater to your race. Don't just pitch up and act all shocked that they don't. Please for the love of god don't post about it every two weeks.

Thank you HoE for your establishment you will see me soon again.

[GreyKnight] Totally agree with Panty_Dropper... this venue has been bashed enough now on the open forum.

Why not use the PM system guys? I am asking respectfully.

That kind of defeats then purpose of a public forum don't you think? It's public (punters) venue advertising on a public (punters) platform. Positive or negative remarks/experiences, this is where it gets aired?

@eziguy-- I hear you my man.

Question: What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

Answer: They both give up...

Very relevant to this thread

As far as I know, HOE is a private establishment and can do business the way they see fit. They sure as hell don't rely on Government work, so any BBEEE policies would not really be under consideration there. So they are not forced, like all businesses doing Gov work to adhere to any recognised/implementable quotas/race/whatever. They are simply there to make money, which is the primary aim of a business. It is not a fucking welfare organisation catering to any perceived aggrieved individual. You pay, you pomp, you leave.

I would think that one should go to places where one feels welcome and comfortable in the surroundings. If not, then look for a new place. Ever looked at Cheers ? A place wher everybody knows your name. Where you feel welcome, and where you like to spend your coin.

To try and force the hand of a successful business by emotional outbursts, no me boy, that ain't gonna work.

Go and read up about the Granger causality theory, which in layman's terms can be reduced to :
If X is a punter, and Y is a venue, then the fact that being X does not necessarily lead to the enjoyment of Y. Post graduate economics simplified to punting at HOE.

Why ever go to a place where you don't feel welcome? Where you have to spend money that you worked for? And where you are not happy to be at ?

The mind boggles sometimes.

Cheers