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Posted: 2012-09-04 17:27:28

@ Remember I don’t think she needs a PR agent. I think she knew what she was doing. In politics its called playing to your base – saying the things your constituents (or patrons in this case) want to hear. In a perverse way it can be seen as a master stroke of sorts as it lets her clients know clearly what her position is on certain matters. it is clearly evident that a market exists out there for a wg’s who employ racial profiling to select their clients. Right of admission reserved.
To each their own I say, but her statement was an ad-hominem slur against an entire race of people. It would be naïve to expect an offended person to pretend it never happened and rush to join the kumbaya circle as it were, now that an apology has been made, which begs the question; is the apology a mere formality or is it sincere? I guess only Shakira will know that, but to many personally offended by this, the former proposition, in my view, would .be where the sentiments of most lie.
One thing though, for a woman that is not into blacks, I must say, she does have the boobs, ass and full lips of a Sista. I stand corrected though I doubt I’m wrong in that assessment. She got a bit of ghetto in her attitude as well too. Come to think of it she more black than most other white chicks lol. Tap that ass…
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Posted: 2012-09-04 17:35:08
Edited: 2012-09-04 17:36:42

I would 1stly like to compliment and commend the last 4 posters as i think your posts were well structured and well thought out. Your points are valid and i feel you guys approached the issue in the correct manner. More posts like that are what this forum often needs.

So why do i feel the punishment does not fit the crime and why do i keep saying 'indirectly racist'?

Is Shakira a racist? I dont know. Using my logic she probably is. Does that alone warrant banning her and making a big scene? I think not. I reckon over 90% of this forum is probably racist in some way. The difference is of course most of these people have the common sense and decency to not spew that kind of hatred on this forum as they know it will cause others pain.

So now back to the case at hand. I have no doubt in my mind that Shakira did not intend to make a racial comment or infer any racial prejudice in that post. Like many here, English is not her first language and quite often she conveys herself very poorly as such. As mentioned earlier, she may well be a racist at heart but i really think it was only her inability to command the English language that resulted in her words being interpreted the way it was.

That said i hence feel we are hanging a girl over the coals essentially because she is often too hasty and has poor English writing skills. This is an escort site and not the Mensa club!

I am also honest when i have a slight bias and i will now explain some of it here. There are many forums out there where a bunch of horny guys can spitball and swap worthless stories. There are not however too many forums like this where the escorts also get to have their say and actively contribute towards the forum. Whether you guys like it or not, Shakira is one of the few girls who does make a fair amount of posts and does try to contribute where she can. There are many girls out there who im sure are stellar escorts but rarely if ever make any posts here for their own reasons (in part im sure because of the abuse girls often receive when posting here). By banning Shakira you are not only shutting out one of the few girls who does take the time to comment here but also justifying all those girls with fears of posting here because of the anger that is often directed at them.

I would also like to say that it is quite different banning a girl who posts on her own name who has a profile and telephone up on this site as opposed to banning some idiot behind a random screen name who will basically just create another account the next day after being banned and continue on his merry way.

Those of you who have been on this forum for some time will know that this isnt the first 'shoot from the hip' girl we have had on this forum come under fire. The last one (well a few) was banned and i still dont think it was in the best interest of the forum but so be it. I wouldnt like for it to happen again.
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Posted: 2012-09-04 17:48:49

Shakira is the life of the party on this forum no doubt, but she should not use her prejudices as motivation to incite acrimony in others.
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Posted: 2012-09-04 18:05:40

Nice to see that the last 5 posters from valentina-remember down has change the tone of this thread to a more civilised comprehensive discussion which is anger free and hold good points from all sides. Hilton
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Posted: 2012-09-04 19:13:04
Edited: 2012-09-04 19:14:16

Nice to see SirChameleon and Remember stroking each others' backsides and complimenting the most recent posters on this thread on their level-headedness....

You see , it will be very difficult for a "person of colour"( how I hate that phrase !) to maintain his/her composure after being offered such an insult.

It is well-nigh impossible for a white person to comprehend the world which a "person of colour " inhabits:

- the silent treatment meted out on social occasions.
- The cold hard stares in the traffic and elsewhere.
- The pooh-pooh- ing (putting down or discounting ) of anything you say.
- The cheap curry and samoosa jokes etc etc
- the sharp "can I help you ? "

Whatever stereotypical notions we have of each other, it is best kept in our thoughts and not verbalized- as SS learnt to her cost
– whether she really considers blacks ugly is entirely besides the point.

I must demur from Remember about SS’s English composition skills.
She understood exactly the purport of the title of her new topic.
But I agree with KLUVEN that it was crudely put for the especial behoof of her white clientele.
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Posted: 2012-09-04 19:33:01

So what? This chick goes all out racist and disrespects everybody else AND STILL NOT BANNED!!!! I think she is banging one of the administrators.
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Posted: 2012-09-05 02:33:58

@Remember: I agree with you in that we need affirmative action on the forum, thus encouraging more WG participation in discussions. Though WGs need not be "some idiot with a telephone number shooting from the hip".

Rules are rules: no spitting in the face of anybody whatsoever.
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Posted: 2012-09-05 05:42:53

@slavejhb
I think you have made your point and on more than one thread so please just leave it and let ESA handle it.

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Posted: 2012-09-05 07:36:42

Well said Aurora!!!
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Posted: 2012-09-05 09:40:16

I myself should say I was quite offended too by your post but your apology has been accepted. No hard feelings after all this now.

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