I also think its obvious she's not interested and her private life outside this industry is her private business, she doesnt have to admit anything about her private life to a client.
But if you still think there's something, why dont you test it? Stop making contact for a whole week and see if she is making contact and when she does, for what reason? Is she interested in how you are doing or is she asking you to visit (paid booking) or any other help.

On 2018-03-13 11:04:33 Nicky @ The Doll House said:
I also think its obvious she's not interested and her private life outside this industry is her private business, she doesnt have to admit anything about her private life to a client.
But if you still think there's something, why dont you test it? Stop making contact for a whole week and see if she is making contact and when she does, for what reason? Is she interested in how you are doing or is she asking you to visit (paid booking) or any other help.

Spot on.

I don't get the impression from the original post that Lil'd is engaging with this lady during business hours only or that he has been engaging purely as a client. Meg and Nicky while I agree a lady's business outside of the industry is their business I am fairly certain that it is not the case here.

We all agree that she is not interested but please explain how you got to the point that he is a besotted punter that is crossing the boundary? I certainly missed that point in his post.

If I may, I think the fact that lil_d mentions things from her private life and sees her attempt at keeping her private life private as "lies" could be considered a boundary crossed.

"I tried getting a feel for her interest by judging the way she interacts with and what she tells me. One day I randomly asked her if there was some else in her life and on several occasions she kept telling me that there is no one else and that I shouldnt worry about anything however my little gut feeling kept telling me that there is someone else but she isnt being honest about it.

She mentioned that if there was someone else then she would of been snatched up by now however and that she is being completely honest with me in everything she is telling once again my gut feeling tells me that there is still someone else cause she is a damn Goddess of note and there is absolutely no way that she cant be interested in anyone for so long."

It doesn't strike me as keeping her private life private? I think this should be dealt with as any normal situation with two/three normal people regardless of what her choice of work. It's bad form to make him sound like a stalker when all indications show that there is more interaction and communication going on outside of a booking. Sure he is well and truly fucked and needs to walk away but lets not throw stones at the man.

It is so sickening to see how shallow and blinded people are about life and about themselves..
My beloved lil_d what you are experiencing now in your life wouldve happened with any other girl you can meet out there, whether in church, by the mall or in your best friend's party. Just because we are wgs and you are punters does that instantly make us aliens? No it doesnt but once you start applying and seeing yourself or other people as wgs, strippers, ex convicts instead of beautiful souls than you are far from growing up or understanding life.
We all have dreams but hate the challenges we must go through to actually build the these characteristics in us to be able to get where we want to be.
Life is beautiful and what makes it beautiful the experiences makes it beautiful.
The jobs we do doesnt define us.
See it as life and something to go through to be the best version of yourself. Learn to be your own advice giver because the answers you actually want and need they are within you. Be with in the crowd and chaos but keep away from the crowd, i hope that makes sense to you.. Running away from an experience or challenge thats just weakness. Just know that to every bad theres good that will come out and vice versa. the reason why people dont reach their full potential in life or never get to experience the best version if themselves is because they let their current lives defije them instead of learning, being happy and growing up and who know maybe you may end up with her and whats wrong if she doesnt? Atleast you will learn something from the experience that will help you either now or in the long run.. the experiences and situations we go through in life they are more or less the from time to time but we never get to experience it at the same time. We must stop living our lives according to what the society tells us but according to our own terms where real happiness will come from. We are so controlled and programmed by the society and it is so sad.
Each and every person you meet in life in any way or place there are there as a blessing and lesson in one. Theres no such thing as useless thing or person. So me being a wg just instantly put me as unworthy of love, affection, passion,loyalty,honesty and care?
No i dont think so only a fool and weak person thinks of such towards other human beings. As human being we are all bound to go through things to help us grow and running away from growth thats being a coward. The crazy thing about life is you cant run away from what you must go through until you really go through it and learn and you may try and run away but you will meet up with the same experience or situation later on in life and if you continue being stubborn its gonna keep on burning until you actually look at it in the face and find out why its there.
What kills people is fear of the unknown and taking other peoples experiences and applying them in our own lives.
Life is a beautiful and its a mistery hence i mentioned all the answers you want are within yourself, you wont get anything from the crowd, the crowd is full of people who are failures, who give up, cowards and people who are weak and scared of challenges and trust me you dont need such negativity thats why you must always consult with yourself and within yourself, thats where you will get the answers that will bring you joy and happiness in your life..
Theres no difference between a wg, punter, banker,painter, prisoner we are all oneness the only difference is how we make a living. Me being a wg doesnt make me a worthless and a monster. To see some ladies underestimating themselves because they are in this business really does make me sad.
If you are in this job or any other job and only see yourself as a hooker, fucker, a cashier, bin collector instead of seeing yourself as a super being, who is a work in progress, a master peace, a goddess, a beautiful, sexy, intelligent and person full of wisdom than you will always see yourself less and achieve nothing and not grow..
People are so full of anger and hatred and bitterness for other people that hurt them in life but when you get to maturity and understanding you get to appreciate everything and everyone that you have met in your life whether it was through a good or bad experience but when you realise how much they helped you in being the best version of yourself.
Theres no bad person in life but people are put in our lives to help us grow and only time to realise this is when you are willing to grow.
People run away from challenges and that why always hear people crying, complaining and whining about the same bad things they are forever going through in their lives and some have even created this "History is repaeting itself" bull and are so comfortable with it. Only if you are stubborn you will experience this and if you keep on going through the same thing over and over again be true to yourself and sit down with self and ask yourself why? And what is your contribution to it.
What makes people think that life is smooth sailing?
Im not sure really.
We are so used to comfort thats why we never mature. We are so judgemental thats why people cant even accept themselves as who they really are. Because of these perceptions of how we must be as human beings that the society gives us.
For me personally i must say ive never thought ill ever be a wg in my life. I had beautiful and amazing dreams and goals that i wanted to achieve but guess what im grateful i had this type of experience of which at first it was so hard to accept it and i was so unhappy and miserable but when i got to an acceptance stage everything changed, i personally changed to this woman who is beautiful, amazing, happy, sexy, full of life and understanding, full of love for all being and the environment around and everything, reaching a point where you have joy within yourself and not dependent on other people to bring you joy and happiness, living life with no expectations from anyone because if you expect from people you will be a very unhappy person.
Experiences makes life beautiful and amazing.
If you dont want to learn you will be stuck with the same situation forever.
Love conquers all
People take that statement lightly but its the most powerful thing to build the foundation of your life on.
Love everything and everyone unconditionally.. im not talking about this fake and conditional love we are being fed by the society.
My advice will be go for it and i promise you if you do it with real love even if you dont end up with her but it will teach you something that will help you in life.
What we need to understand as human beings is that we always win not lose. Losing is for the weak but when you reach a phase in your life where even if you dont end up with that person you thought you wanted to end up with but to be able to sit down with yourself with no hate for that person and look at the situation in all angles you will be surprised at what you will find within yourself. Let us allow ourselves to grow to the best versions of ourselves through our life experiences and those experiences will only come from other human beings lets learn to appreciate,love and learn it wont be easy though but we must have teachable personalities not weak personalities.
We are all oneness and we must learn through each other and be grateful.. learn to accept each other as we are because our paths are not the same but if we do cross paths than be patient and learn from it and get another challenge.
If you are always being challenged by the same thing there is something wrong with you.
We must stop playing the blame game and pointing fingers at each other that is plain and simple weakness and immaturity.
Live and love life and experience it in your own terms and reach a point where you literally feel that you are immortal.
Remember how powerful your thoughts are. If you have lots of negative thoughts they will eventually manifest itself in real life the same goes with having positive thoughts.
The world is full of such chaos and so much turmoil because of our thoughts.
So its up to you that you drown yourself with the crowd and the poison from the society and be miserable or you live your life in your own terms, with curiousity of knowing the truth hidden and looking for the answers within yourself and seeking the truth because i can tell you one thing not everything is what it seems and a lot of people are still blinded and in the dark and the only advice they can give is also full of darkness. Our jobs dont define us. We are not aliens i wish we can stop seeing ourselves as unworthy people or you will never understand why you are even here in this industry in the first place, learn and be on the next level of being your great self. Or you will be here for the rest of your life until you die complaining about how life is so unfair but its you who doesnt want to grow up simple.
The things we go through in life are not there to destroy us but to help us grow and be strong and fearless..
Forget about the crowd and consult with yourself and within yourself. Running away is for the weak and cowards and you must refuse to be that..
Lets learn to accept and love each other we all have a lot to learn from one another.
Life you must take it with the punches thats what makes it beautiful and thats the only way to reach that person you really are..
Since a lot of people are living their lives trying to impress other people and they are not happy at all because the only thing they know is accommodating and compromising themselves to be accepted or whatever the case may be..

Do what makes you happy and if things go wrong and you dont get to keep her dont be sad about it and think you lost because you having to experience having her in your life will give you an even bigger win from the lesson. The word losing doesnt apply in my life even though i didnt get to be with a particular person its okay but learning something is also a win.

Pruveooo, i dont see where i made him sound like a besotted punter. Girls dont all speak about everything in their private lifes, mentions some when comfortable, but sometimes feel the client doesnt have to know everything. Especially when she knows the client is inlove with her and he's a regular she doesnt want to loose, she might hold back the truth about being inlove with someone else in fear of loosing business. Again, i'm not saying this is true in his case, i am merely stating a common fact under a lot of people. Same when a girl meets a guy at a club, they start seeing each other and one day when you phone him, his wife answers the phone. People lie about things so they wont miss out on something they want/need.

lil_d, sorry if i assumed your interaction only went as far as client/sp bookings.

As countless topics before, people fall inlove yes, in all areas of life. More topics about girls in this industry having to play a role different from what she is at home to keep a paying client happy, or to put on a smile when she doesnt feel like it. This is not only my personal opinion but every client's or sp's opinion who commented in this before. To have my own personal opinion too, if i may, i think that its much more easier for a girl in this industry to get whatever from a client because we know how to play the role to make him feel special and give him what he needs/wants. It doesnt make me shallow, dark or bitter to recognize this fact, knowing this truth only makes me cautious to not become like the ones who shamelessly play to abuse. I sat clenching my teeth listening to a wg laughing about how she's got clients wrapped around her finger and she only needs to mention she wants something and then she gets it, all while talking about how disgusting he is. It's sickening but its a sad truth.

Not all sp/wg/mg are like this so at no means did i say lil_d's girl is one of them. I mentioned to stop contact for a while and wait for her to contact him first and see what she is saying before knowing if she's just playing him or if she also has feelings for him. Sometimes it takes absence for someone to realize how they feel

@ Nicky

" we know how to play the role to make him feel special and give him what he needs/wants."

Those words are so true, and that my dear is what some of us are paying / praying for. If it did not happen we would not have open or wallets for returned visits.

Be proud of being able to do that. That is the diffirence between good and great.

On 2018-03-13 14:36:19 Yewrev1 said:
@ Nicky

" we know how to play the role to make him feel special and give him what he needs/wants." Be proud of being able to do that. That is the diffirence between good and great.

That's so true ... easy and simple !!!

@Nicky: Spot on! #Agree #Like