On 2024-11-23 13:58:51 YourChunkyFunkiness said:
"let's discuss in the room" is one thing, but have you ever heard "I don't do extras with a first time client. If there is chemistry we can discuss it on your next visit" ?

I swear that there is audacity in newer Sp's.

LOL, yep, I have heard that too...
Pay full rate to get a massage and HJ on 1st visit and only if you pass her criteria, you get GFE on a second visit...

I think a video call upfront could be cheaper, option LOL.

On 2024-11-23 13:58:51 YourChunkyFunkiness said:
"let's discuss in the room" is one thing, but have you ever heard "I don't do extras with a first time client. If there is chemistry we can discuss it on your next visit" ?

I swear that there is audacity in newer Sp's.

I had that conversation with a lady who is very active on ESA and who has been around for a while. My polite response was no thanks that doesn't work for me. That response was not well received and the contact ended abruptly on a sour note. I still see her promoting her services and wonder if that is still the way she operates.

Maybe I am just way too easy. I also don't usually go the venues - which also plays a role.

I draw the agreed amount before the session and seldom have more than R100/200 cash in my wallet over and above the agreed fee.

I don't request "extras". If they are offered as different options in an initial exchange of communication - I may ask for more detail and may agree up front, but usually not. I don't like the "pizza toppings" approach. I understand some services (like anal) may require additional preparation and the lady may need to know if you want it included and may charge extra.

For massage ladies, I definitely don't chase the extras. Some ladies will clearly indicate: massage and then ending of your choice (hj, bj even fh and any difference in pricing) but if not - then so be it.

If the offered service and rate works for me (and if I get a good feeling from reviews and the interaction and the pictures rev my engine), then I will make a booking when able. If it so happens that in the booking the lady offers extras then I politely inform her that she should have told me upfront as I don't have any more cash on me.

I then leave satisfied (or unsatisfied) based on the services offered and delivered and not what could have been. If satisfied - I will trying return and having built some rapport I may explore additional services.

If the offered service and rate DO NOT work for me (or if I don't get a good feeling from reviews and the interaction and the pictures don't rev my engine), then I won't make a booking. That simple!

There have been a few ladies who have offered extras for subsequent sessions (some at extra cost and some at no cost). If I enjoyed the first session, I will return. Not to chase the elusive extras, but because the session was that good that I want it again and possibly explore additional services.