On 2021-05-11 20:08:32 Les01 said:
On 2021-05-11 18:36:46 Gretchen said: Firstly, sorry Shakira that you have to go through that. Especially when you clearly state on your profile what to expect. I do the same, and still get calls asking whether I do submissive bondage (what!!) My suggestion would be to make it very clear beforehand what the guy can expect. If you have to, say it again as you start massaging. If he still asks after that, firmly reply "what part of the no full house / oral DID HE NOT UNDERSTAND"?


Please u keep ur mouth shut.
U were just banned, dont jump on the bandwagon here

Eish, That is a cold one

On 2021-05-11 23:17:25 Arizona said:
I used to actively contribute to this forum when it first started. We had mutual respect for each other back in those days between Punters and Service Provider's. Threads offered constructive and informative advise. And then it became a World of Word's of War between Client's and Ladies hiding behind keyboards 'using every opportunity to lambast and be derogatory towards each other? I then chose to stop contributing. I was always here to promote and encourage the best that this "Purple" world could offer.

I read this thread and I am reminded and cringe at why I chose to stop commenting on the forums! But at the same time I am abhorred by the comments of some of the posters. What has made us become so apathetic, desensitized to the point that we show no empathy for another human being?

No! Means NO! It doesn't even equate or is justified an excuse on any Level whether it is personal, business, sexual or physical!

Arizona

Well said Arizona.

Honestly guys to us men...when I see a WG that says no FH or oral and I'm looking for FH I dont even bother looking further at the WGs profile and move on looking for one that is offering what I'd like. If its just a massage with a happy ending (hand job) then yeah I'll visit a MG like Shakira, simple. Its not rocket science its simple as a Tinder swipe. Why waste your time and an escort like Shakira's time? Its so dumb...why be a prick and annoy her ....its part of a huge problem with society as a whole which leads a lot to rape....

So guys if you want FH...just like Shakira said, theirs plenty girls on here that offer it. Visit them (lets hope you don't annoy them too like even they have their don'ts and do's). Dont be dumb and annoying

On 2021-05-11 15:02:00 Mike Hope said:
Some might say success is often obtained by refusing to accept no for an answer

Others would call it rape!!! No means no

On 2021-05-11 22:06:26 Lucky Horseman said:
I wish all MG who does not offer extras would put that on their profiles.

Thanks to those who do. Makes my life alot easier. I can avoid those who does not offer the service I may be in the mood for. Im sure as shit not going to waste my time begging for something I have to pay for at the end.

The problem comes in because there's a lot of mgs that say that on their profile but do offer those so the guys can't tell who is who so their only way to find out is to ask.

Some mgs will lead you on to to saying "maybe" & "we'll see" & "when I get to know you better" etc just to get the business when they don't offer it. I had this happen. Some just say that so they can implement their own ROAR. It's happening right now in this site so "No" means "No to you but not to everyone" and I've got those messages from wgs in my inbox that conflict what's on their profile.

Then don't forget the forbidden fruit concept where many wgs actually state mg just so guys will pay for extras when the heat is on to make more and now we're surprised they ask for more when the heat is on. Then there's the those just want to play it legally safe. There's another mg on this site now that denies oral or FH on her profile. She denied it on PM, WhatsApp and call with me. 3 reliable punters confirmed it was on offer though so I took a chance and went thinking worst case, I get a proper massage for R450. Guess what, she OFFERED more when I was there in person. How is any punter supposed to know the difference between this wg and the Shakira type or the one that ROAR's if they don't ask?

Lastly we always paying for it here in the end. So yes, no use begging aka wife experience, just book a wg which is what I do.

Great post, N4P. This is what I meant about MGs "lying about what's on the menu", and the subsequent game that gets played, but the full post would have been too long if I expanded on this as well.

@Shakira my (extreme) advice still stands if you want to try eliminate yourself from this "game", but it appears Lesley (and maybe other SPs) have given you similar (but less immediate) steps - so how far you take it will be indicative of how seriously this bothers you.

If you making a girl uncomfortable and she says no!!!! Its not rocket science, its all about respect, do you see mg/wg msging or calling you when you at home? If they do they will be breaking boundaries. So have respect as you want us to have respect!

No harm in asking, on the phone pm or Whatsapp, but once you got your answer, if it is "No", accept it and move along.

To push your luck after the "no", boils down to "attempted rape".

A practical tip that I posted regarding other issues- if a guy asks when you've already stated your boundaries, give him a miss. Its in your ad, you've stated it in your sales pitch, he still asks. Sorry, third strike,you're out. If he wants extras and you are clear in your ad, then you are not what he is looking for. Just block. Its not worth the fight.

On 2021-05-12 07:50:05 Shakira said:
If you making a girl uncomfortable and she says no!!!! Its not rocket science, its all about respect, do you see mg/wg msging or calling you when you at home? If they do they will be breaking boundaries. So have respect as you want us to have respect!

Yes, happened numerous times with wg I didn't even want to see ever. Happened with wgs that I have seen and would have seen again if it wasn't for their out of line messages and calls. I just blocked them.

Forgot to make a hooha about how horrible they are on the forum.

Then there's those that do message and call at home. We chat. One size doesn't fit all.