Not to condone Jesse's or her "driver's" behaviour, but anyone who invites an untested hooker to his house, in a complex nogal, is an idiot.

@Jimbo....thats the problem...Jesse has very good reviews.... not a untested hooker really.

Having followed this closely, I have decided after much though that there are three ladies that I most certainly be avoiding. Jesse was on my list until this story broke, now I will definitely be avoiding her. There are other ladies in the area that offer a good service. As for the other two, I will simply pass as they seem to be forgetting that we the punters pay their salaries and their attacks on the punters is unwanted and uncalled for, I support their support for Jesse but to the level that you have taken this to. For me, it is unacceptable.

On 2016-03-17 20:23:41 iamfunluva said:
On 2016-03-17 13:37:08 Longjon said: On 2016-03-17 13:21:30 Arhwen said: Lmao Hans what bucket list? On 2016-03-17 13:24:26 Meg said: Arhwen, I dont even think Hansxxx does the deed, he's just here to leave comments on everyones post. None of our ladies or she-males has ever been with him.

I would be interested to know how you guys know Hansxxx never books a lady? Many punters on here, including myself, do not book using our forum names, or even disclose it to any of the girls.

Great question longjon

This question has been answered by someone that has raised more cocks than rainbow chickens ;)

[QUOTE;505576;iamfunluva] If it all was a misunderstanding and Jesse did not want the full payment then should she not be refunding Dor??
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Not taking sides here as I was not there. I do agree that the driver/boyfriend whatever he was should not have gotten involved at all and most especially should not have threatened dor.However nowhere in the following quoted texts did for say he gave her Monday. So what exactly are we refunding here??? Typical....


[QUOTE;505204;dor] Let me start by saying Esa advised me to make this post and to warn the other Esa users of my experience.A friend from out of town asked me to arrange 2 ladies for a relaxed evening braai and then an all night booking with them at my place.This was for last night and he would be arriving around 5 pm.
I called a lady in Pta first to book her for myself.We discussed and agreed to the fee , I then called Jesse to ask her if she was interested to do a booking with my friend and an all night booking after sitting around a fire and having a braai Tues evening.She said she was happy to do the booking and for the same as the lady I booked from Pta.Both ladies were advised of each others names and were happy to do the evening braai / overnight booking.
My lady from Pta asked me to fetch her Tues evening and take her home Wednesday morning which I was more than happy to do. I offered to fetch Jesse as well after fetching my lady from Pta but she said she had her own car and would drive herself to my place. Various sms's were exchanged regarding what they would like to have to drink etc.All the said sms's have been given to the Esa offices.

Jesse called me at 6.39am Tues morning but I missed her call.She then sent me a msg saying could she dress in casual clothes and my reply was that would be fine as it was just for a relaxing evening braai.
My next message to her was "Will let you know later what time I am fetching the lady from Pta so that you more or less know what time to come through."

This is where the problem started.At 1.10pm I get a message that she is already at my place.Told her I am at work but would leave to get home in around 30 to 45 min depending on traffic, told her to go for a coffee but she said no she would just wait.She arrived 6 hours early.

I rush home to find her sitting outside with some guy in the car.She comes in at around 1.45pm and says she has to leave at 4pm as she has a booking at 6pm. I tell her the booking is for the evening braai and then the all nighter with my friend that is only arriving an hour or two after she said she has to leave.I suggest she goes to her 6pm booking and then to return after that to fulfil her arrangement with my friend. She calls her "driver" to come fetch her and says she will get back to me in an hour to see if she is coming back after her 6pm.
The guy who dropped her picks her up after about 10 min.He then climbs out after he speaks to her , rings my bell to call me to the gate and demands her full payment.I explain what happended after which he goes to get her cell phone to read all her messages , sees it is for an evening braai and still demands full payment. When I refused to pay anything and said she will be payed the agreed amount when she returns he start making threats and calling "his connections" giving them my home address and telling them to come sort me out for not paying.I have taken these threats very seriously and the complex I am in has camera's mounted at Unit 1 that records all vehicles registration numbers and pedestrians that enter our road for our security company.I have his registration so that if need be he will easily be traced and it will also be easy to find Jesse at the place she works from should any of his connections ever come calling.

Esa can confirm the above account with sms messages provided to them and advised me that she has no right to expect any payment whatsoever.They also told me that she has posted things to discredit me. For a girl who is in the top 10 and gets good reviews I wish her well but will never recommend her after what she and her "driver" tried to pull.She is welcome to give her account and as people will say there are 3 sides, his, hers and the truth and the other Esa users and advertisers can decide for themselves.

Thanks Dor [/QUOTE]


[QUOTE;505439;dor] Afternoon all.

I have read all that has been posted and let me point out the following.Firstly the last communication/ sms between me and her said "Will let you know later what time I am fetching the lady from Pta so that you more or less know what time to come through."

I did not call her to say I have fetched the other lady , so come on through or we are near so you are welcome to come over.She arrived at 1pm unannounced for an evening braai and all the sms's provided to Esa talk about the evening braai.

Secondly which so called driver would ever grab a ladies cellphone and go through all her sms messages while she sits quietly in the front seat of his car.All his threats were within a few feet of her while she sat quietly doing nothing.

He demanded full payment and no mention was made about a cancellation fee and the area she came to me from is Allensnek which is 10 min from my place, not that I would have paid that as her arriving out of the blue was her fault.

She also said her sms to me says her fees and 900/ hr , what she did not say is that message was sent to me from her on the 7th March and had nothing to do with our Tues evening arrangement which 3 of the 4 people involved,me, my friend and the other lady knew it was for an evening braai then an all night booking and that I would take the other lady home to Pta the next morning.

Jesse also goes on to say "If I required payment for the mishap I would have mentioned it to the client prior to leaving."

Agreed she never asked for any form of payment or cancellation fee which she could not as she arrived 6 hrs early , and if everything was her drivers fault then please explain to the other people on Esa
if you did not expect anything for your mistake then why did you go and post on the private girls forum trying to discredit me.

I have been around for many years and no lady I have booked at their place or mine has ever complained to Esa about me. I treat all the girls with respect and honour all my bookings always arriving as arranged.

I gave her the option to come back later and be paid as agreed but she did not want to come back after her 6pm booking.

Good luck to you Jesse and you really don't have anything to make up to me as I wont be booking you in the future , my advise boyfriends / husbands will only harm your business.

Thanks Dor[/QUOTE]

I would have to agree with dor boyfriend's and husband's will only harm your business I have seen it time and time again.

[QUOTE;505451;dor] Lastly guys, she is not a she male, she is a friendly girl and in the 10 min I spoke to her I was prepared to do a booking with her on another day as that evening she was booked for my friend. I am sure she is good at what she does and that she will give a good service. Just because our thing went south and never worked out does not mean she needs to be avoided.Just make sure that when arrangements are made that both parties are on the same page. She has had good reviews and that is why I called her to book her for my friend.Let her keep getting good reviews and all this can be put down to lessons learned.
Happy punting all and not all things go badly , spent a lovely afternoon yesterday with my friend and two lovely girls in Angel falls at Hoe.[/QUOTE]

Clearly he has realised it's a mis communication/understanding and moved on why can't the rest of you.

Now if I look at it from a ousiders point of view taking the following statements into consideration there was definitely mis understanding.

1. How does one book a allnighter with somebody that only works till 6?

2. How do you arrive at a clients place before he tells you you can leave?

3.no body mentioned an agreement about all nighter fees. Only a hourly rate (neither of the 2 parties had clarity.

4. If the booking is for 6 why did the punter even leave work in the first place he should have just said come back at the arranged time. If he had done so in the first place the lady would have realized there was a mistake and would have said but I can't do after 6 she may have been peed off but it would teach her to confirm bookings properly and she will double check with the next client she makes such a agreement.

Let's just say there a lesson for both parties to learn here.

On 2016-03-18 07:38:39 Minime007 said:
@Jimbo....thats the problem...Jesse has very good reviews.... not a untested hooker really.

That makes no sense.
Jimbo is 100% right. I dont give a shit if a WG has 60 pages of great reviews. If I myself have not booked her previously, I would not chance inviting her to my house!

My m.o. when Im comfortable and a regular, and I want to arrange an allnight I prefer making arrangements to picking the gal up. I dont trust taxi drivers at all.
I definitely dont do allnights regularly and wont book a gal for an allnight if I never been with her before.

With regards to Hans its easy to sit and look from the outside in but onces you have looked from the outside in and walked a day in our shoes will you be able to see things from our point of view.

You have no idea what the ladies put up with from Hans and his numerous enquiries over and over and over again and I know I don't only speak for myself. Secondly he's always asking people to refer ladies to him when people refer ladies to him he always has something negative to say about them. Also take a look at all his posts on the ladies profiles all negative comments not one review should I go on???

If I may if you take Hans and do a forum search on all he's posts (damn wish all his PMS could be searched too) and compare it to someone like Q's or Fire in her hole's post.( sorry to use you guys but you are perfect examples and I haven't been with any of you)

You can clearly see the difference between genuine punters and wankers ;)

I've been on this industry long enough to know the difference ;)

Remember it's us ladies that deal with wankers all the time (with all due respect) not the punters so yes we will know the difference ;)

@Arhwen a WG told me Hans is engaged to be married. Maybe he is just having cold feet to get married to his fiance thats why he is on esa but doesnt have the balls to actually book

@Mujahid... darling then Hans shouldn't waste a lady's time by making endless enquiries without having any intention of making a booking?

Lol there are a number of members on here that don't book I know I sometimes chat to them however they are upfront and tell you this and they even give you a reason why in some instances. That I can respect.

What I did not mention in my previous post is punters ask questions that matter wankers well they ask different questions over and over and over again ;)

Lol maybe the should answere our phones for abit and see what we have to deal with over the phone and sometimes worse in person :) wonder how they would handle that # laughing at the thought#

On 2016-03-18 08:52:18 Miss Ruby said:
@Mujahid... darling then Hans shouldn't waste a lady's time by making endless enquiries without having any intention of making a booking?

And this is the reason why alot of ladies do not respond to PM's ;)