Keith, there is no such list AFAIK.

This is quite a dispiriting thread. I’m an outsider - from the UK - and when people ask me what the ‘Rainbow Nation’ is like, I say, “Scratch a South African, and you find a racist.” That, of course, is a gross generalisation, but it applies to many in this country. Until recently I had a motswana girlfriend; you should have heard the comments shouted at us by other Tswana, not to mention her mother! (To be fair, others were extremely tolerant.)

That said, I have travelled widely, and I have, in many countries, come across far far worse racism than that found in South Africa, so there is hope. What is odd about this place, though, is that the cultural groups do not socialise. The Afrikaners don’t readily mix with the English-speaking whites, and neither mix with their African, Indian or Coloured co-workers, even though, on a day-to-day basis, they work alongside each other perfectly amicably. In the UK, for instance, all races share the exact same culture which helps enormously to break down the barriers. Here, you don’t. It is going to take two or three generations, at least, to overcome this problem. Meanwhile, please don’t say, as does ‘2hot74’, that Zimbabwe could happen here. Zim was God’s own country, destroyed in the end not by racism but by the obscene greed of a small political elite that ruined the place for everyone, regardless of the colour of their skin.

Now to get personal. All my girlfriends, except the last one, have been European. Then I met, and fell in love with, a beautiful, sexy, motswana (sadly, after three years, now ex). Result: I no longer even look at white women. African girls, to my mind, are stunning. (Pity so many African men treat them like sh*t - but that’s another discussion.) Is this racism? No, of course not. It’s no different from saying I like girls with big boobs and small bums. So, if some white WG says she doesn’t ‘do’ African men, or if some beautiful Zulu tells you she can’t take pink-coloured, hairy-textured, beer-bellied ex-rugby players, then just suck it up. Maybe their daughters or their granddaughters will. At least, let’s hope so.

Mulerider, yours is an outsider's perspective, which, though interesting, does not account for the other cultural dynamics at play here. I am born here. I would say South Africa is a highly racially polarised society.
You are absolutely correct about the races not socializing.
At company functions I am left completely alone with my soft drink to keep me company.Nobody would even acknowledge my existence....until a well-mannered black person comes up to me to make small talk. Stereotyping is a well-honed art in South Africa. Assumptions are made about me even before I have uttered a syllable. Even on this forum I have been challenged several times about my "fake" English writing style and my posts minutely examined to find fault with my punctuation.
I'm "an Indian" so why do I dare affect a superior writing style?

Having said all of the above I do not subscribe to the Liberal creed that promiscuous social and/or sexual intercourse between the various races is inherently morally superior.

In closing , most forum readers are "skimmers" not readers.
So do not expect any level-headed responses to posts of this nature.

Mulerider, point of correction, Zim was a country destroyed by a minority who through racisim stole from the majority and when the political tide changed were too greedy and short-sited to correct previous wrongs. This prompted the Gov to act and created a backlash on the country by powers that wanted to maintain the status quo.
Same story is being played out in SA. Effect mental change, the minority can never subjugate the majority and rub it in their noses.
I agree that this is not a "happy thread" Cos no matter who you are or what race you are we're all on ESA for one thing....to get our full monies worth from WGs and live out every fantasy our bank manger will allow us pay for!!

its very easy to blame racism. People aren't going to come up and talk to you. You have to be friendly, approach others an talk to them. If are friendly, and confident, you'll find that south Africans are very friendly.

‘2hot74’, it seems you’ve bought into the ZANU-PF propaganda line that the country’s problems are all the fault of scheming Western powers. FYI, no foreign countries want Zim - let alone SA - to fail. What on earth would be their logic? Racial dominance? Don’t be silly. However, I DO have experience of international realpolitik. I once fought in a guerrilla army against a dictatorship a hundred times worse than anything ever seen in southern Africa. In the end we were forced to surrender - an army of 50,000 men - by very real ‘Western Interests’. I have never forgiven the b*st*ards! Zim was actually doing okay until Mugabe went round the bend - no man should have absolute power for 33 years (and believe me when I say I hold no brief for Smith et al, let alone for the disgusting Apartheid regime).

Changing the subject, speak for yourself when it comes to fantasies - I don’t even like BJs. I am here because I enjoy female company but, for the moment at least, I am fed up with shelling out thousands of rands per month for someone you think loves you, only to wake up one day to find that it was indeed a fantasy. I will pay for the lady’s time - exactly as per the fine print - and if we don’t get on, I will just walk away and look for one that I can stick with. THAT is much simpler and much, much less tiring and expensive than wooing, wining and dining, then fixing their car, buying the groceries, etc., etc.

And ‘ilovepunani’, don’t get me wrong: South Africans - of all shades - are incredibly friendly. That’s why I stay here.

@Mulerider will you not deign to respond to my remarks?
I know that in the UK there is a strong animus towards "asians" , yclept "indians" in South Africa.

AMEN to the last paragraph!!

Whose last paragraph ?
Mine , Mulerider's or 2hot's?
Be precise.

my 2 cents -why would you want to have sex with someone who doesnt want you.....just move on theres lots more beautiful women on esa.