On 2018-08-06 10:25:24 john_adams said:

This is like having a discussion about the easter bunny , fuck buddies don't exist , most men are just too stupid to realize the woman is using sex to establish a long term relationship

any man here who says he has been seeing a woman for months or years and all they do is quickly get together , fuck and then go their separate ways( without money or other services exchanged) is a either a liar or he has serious memory issues , some relationships start like that , but it very quickly escalates into a serious relationship or fizzles out , that wasn't a fuck buddy it was failure to launch , pure and simple

Why do you presume to know our lives? I've had a singular fuck buddy since 2011. Another since 2015. I've had over a dozen fuck buddies probably since 2008. Though most have found serious relationships somewhere along the line and moved on.

Why would you simply copy and paste your life experience and impose it on the rest of us as if you know each and every one of our lives in such monumental detail?

On 2018-08-05 10:05:56 Need4Passion said:
On 2018-08-05 00:05:19 Meg said:
So what about Tinder or something like that? Isnt that the new way of getting (dating)a lady?
Someone showed me and there are 100s of profiles to look and choose from.

I've been trying it. Problem is the expectation is that everyone there is single. As much as they say it's a hookup app, most ladies want a relationship with a potential for more.

Can we really call Tinder in SA a hookup app? Yes, you can easily hook up with some women on there for NSA sex, and they will explicitly state that that's what they are looking for because they are in open relationships etcetera. The downside is that the ones who place this information out in public are in the minority so you have to sift through the BS. In the States you can easily get away with just hooking up because it has become a hookup app. Similar to what Plenty of Fish was.

I have 1 and did not go to any site to find her. We meet when we both agree and when we are both free. It is working well so far. I treat her when I can and do not expect anything from her. She can decide to stop tomorrow and it will be fine with me and I think vice versa. No monetary exchange at all as some are saying.

On 2018-08-07 11:05:47 elbuorT said:
I have 1 and did not go to any site to find her. We meet when we both agree and when we are both free. It is working well so far. I treat her when I can and do not expect anything from her. She can decide to stop tomorrow and it will be fine with me and I think vice versa. No monetary exchange at all as some are saying.

Yip, that's a fwb. No strings, financial or otherwise. You both just enjoy each other while you're both still happy to do so.

On 2018-08-05 11:52:00 Prophet1 said:
Have any WG or MG hand a fuck buddy or friend with benefits outside the industry? That dynamic would interesting.

No never and I'm not interested.
If I need attention I know where to find it.
Ps: There's nothing wrong with my toys or imagination.....
And that's not going out to public places or hooking up with men.....I don't do it and never have or see the need to.

They say it cost nothing to hookup? BS!
Thats a (lie) ....hotel cost(if you not doing it under someone's roof....traveling, some drinks and and and.....even a glas of cold drinks being offered are paid for.....told you nothing in life is for free.... let's not even go into it when your in a relationship....it's a high price to pay to have a temp F###buddy.
And eventually ladies have to like and love to have sex....so emotions will be a part of it.
Men are different.

Ps: interesting topic... every day I learn more.
Thanks gentlemen.

On 2018-08-07 12:38:52 Meg said:
On 2018-08-05 11:52:00 Prophet1 said: Have any WG or MG hand a fuck buddy or friend with benefits outside the industry? That dynamic would interesting.

No never and I'm not interested.
If I need attention I know where to find it.
Ps: There's nothing wrong with my toys or imagination.....
And that's not going out to public places or hooking up with men.....I don't do it and never have or see the need to.

They say it cost nothing to hookup? BS!
Thats a (lie) ....hotel cost(if you not doing it under someone's roof....traveling, some drinks and and and.....even a glas of cold drinks being offered are paid for.....told you nothing in life is for free.... let's not even go into it when your in a relationship....it's a high price to pay to have a temp F###buddy.
And eventually ladies have to like and love to have sexy....so emotions will be a part of it.
Men are different.

Ps: interesting topic... every day I learn more.
Thanks gentlemen.

Meg...I just love your honesty...

But it's true....everything has a price...no such thing as a free ride or free lunch..

I would choose to visit a WG or MG anytime over a fuck buddy...for me it is about a release...be it sexual or sensual but it has to be 'no strings'....only way of it being a 100% no strings is if it is paid for...no favours no obligations....no need to cuddle...no need to call..no romancing...clearly a business transaction....

Emotions is the most expensive currency...

On 2018-08-06 16:55:28 Pseudonyms said:

Can we really call Tinder in SA a hookup app? Yes, you can easily hook up with some women on there for NSA sex, and they will explicitly state that that's what they are looking for because they are in open relationships etcetera. The downside is that the ones who place this information out in public are in the minority so you have to sift through the BS. In the States you can easily get away with just hooking up because it has become a hookup app. Similar to what Plenty of Fish was.

Not really hey. I see majority of the profiles even explicitly state no hookups or even looking for their future husband.

Chatted to a few women, all but one expected or assumed I'm single or they're not interested in taking it further if you're not. Of the 2 married women I met, one still wanted a "monogamous" relationship with dates etc yet she was cheating on her husband. The other wanted a single guy.

Haven't come across one real profile there that is genuinely just down to fck except fake scammers yet.

Chatting to a few now who assume I'm single and 2 where very down to hookup but just couldn't find the time. Both think I'm single though and although down to hookup, they also think it's not just fwb and probably want to hook a bigger fish for long term.

Also noticed that it's like totally not multiracial. Only match with same race and proceed further. If I ever match another race, they never respond to messages so I can only assume they right swiped by mistake.

On 2018-08-07 12:38:52 Meg said:
On 2018-08-05 11:52:00 Prophet1 said: Have any WG or MG hand a fuck buddy or friend with benefits outside the industry? That dynamic would interesting.

No never and I'm not interested.
If I need attention I know where to find it.
Ps: There's nothing wrong with my toys or imagination.....
And that's not going out to public places or hooking up with men.....I don't do it and never have or see the need to.

They say it cost nothing to hookup? BS!
Thats a (lie) ....hotel cost(if you not doing it under someone's roof....traveling, some drinks and and and.....even a glas of cold drinks being offered are paid for.....told you nothing in life is for free.... let's not even go into it when your in a relationship....it's a high price to pay to have a temp F###buddy.
And eventually ladies have to like and love to have sexy....so emotions will be a part of it.
Men are different.

Ps: interesting topic... every day I learn more.
Thanks gentlemen.

Yip, everything does have a price. So true, it will cost one or both parties money, maybe even more than punting if they want to do something extravagant. It doesn't matter though, you're not paying the other party directly which is were the mutual desire and emotional satisfaction comes from which punting can never answer. It is not punting again. If it is pure physical satisfaction you require then punting is still the cheapest, easiest, safest,candidate most convenient way to get it in my books.

Maybe some just want it for the cost saving which they can do if they keep it simple and use their own houses, cars, and offices.

Maybe some just want physical satisfaction or to satisfy a fetish and they can get it from a fuck buddy too but far less hassles punting and you get to try different girls at entirely your convenience.

However for people like me who would like those things but wants mutual passion on both sides, who wants to be with someone who wants to genuinely be with me too and not just get because I'm paying them, punting can never fill that hole but I fwb can.

I think the difference is men think with there d####
It just about one thing....
And woman with there mind and hearts.
We think for the long run....

I personally wouldn't like to know someone is using me after hours just for his convenience.

I believe if I am interested and I let you in you really need to be some kind of special for me to just give you what you want



Emotions is the most expensive currency BY FAR!
Couldn't said it any beta.

There is no fuck buddy scenario that will be viable in the long run, eventually emotions and jealousy will peek its head on either or one side and there goes the blue berry pie!!

The movie friends with benefits pops to mind for a visual scenario of what possibly would happen or probably could.

As for the thinking or rationale of why men would be thinking like this , it is not a novel idea and research has shown read the book "Men on Strike " Author Hellen Smith "Ph.D" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Smith_(psychologist) although based on scenarios happening in the USA it is pausible that similar dynamics are at play across the globe and even more so in SA especially under the current socio-economic conditions not being "primo" for some sectors! Uncertainty , economics and political factions creating havoc would play a huge roll in the long term planning of the educated minority, with disposable income......

"Description" Men on strike
American society has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going on strike." They are dropping out of college, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates. The trend is so pronounced that a number of books have been written about this man-child" phenomenon, concluding that men have taken a vacation from responsibility simply because they can. But why should men participate in a system that seems to be increasingly stacked against them?

As Men on Strike demonstrates, men aren't dropping out because they are stuck in arrested development. They are instead acting rationally in response to the lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. In addition, men are going on strike, either consciously or unconsciously, because they do not want to be injured by the myriad of laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century. Men are starting to fight back against the backlash. Men on Strike explains their battle cry.