#This is going to be a long read.. ;) But a bit of a must be put out there.#

Well we all know that that is happening whether we like it or not.

Something has to give somewhere in the aftermath of total economic distrucion that took place over the last 18 months.

No one has been untouched financially no one individual can say "I have not had to adjust".

Even those that has managed to cash in during this time would not have been able to do that have they not "adjusted" their way of thinking.

This industry had to do the same.

Guys adjusted.

Disposable income and the uncertainties has made them aware of their spending habits. The work situation where plenty have moved to home office has also impacted mobility. Some stopped punting,some are punting less, others are more selective when punting.

Ladies had to adjust..

They been selling online content.
Changing their work hours.
Offering more services or becoming the best at one specific service.
A lot have become more aware of the fact that living day to day won't cut it.
Choosing to market better, be visible.
That Customer service starts long before the guy sets foot through your door and does not end the moment he leaves.
Being more discreet, providing extras like beverages or that 15 minutes extra for a guy to cool off before leaving or before the session to just have a drink and get in the space.


But very few have made drastic changes to their fees over 2020 and even the first few months of 2021?

Why is that?

I think it is because as a industry the fees have not changed very much over the past 10 years.

Those that have been charging 300 aswell as those that have been charging 2000 a hour have been doing that for the last 10 years. Area quality have declined in certain areas over the last 10 years and with it economic power in that areas and those that want to remain in their 2000 bracet just move to areas still had that economic power.

Girls don't adjust their fees the same as other industries. They don't add 10% every year or go lower or higher everytime the economy would force other industries to do so.

New girls enter and automatically just charge what the other ladies in the area charge. Sometimes a bit higher because they "new in a area" sometimes a bit less "because they want to undercut the competition".

But very few go and sit down and actually try to figure out how much it costs them to be a SP, how much they need to make a decent living, and then look at market prices around them and then structure their fees accordingly.

In the last 3 months though I have seen more and more ladies making adjustments to fees and services. Those that have been under selling have made adjustments to earn a decent living , those that have been over selling has made adjustments or face not earning at all.

There is a over supply of SP currently in the market due to many having no choice but to join our industry and a smaller demand due to more careful spending by punters.

The economic reset is happening in our industry whether we like it or not.

And only those that regonise this and adjust will make it through this.

I myself will be making some changes to my fee and service structures.

Although I have never joined to the "your in CPT you can charge more" trend and my fees are mid range, I do regonise that I have to make an adjustment here and there if I want to maintain a steady flow of customers and a reasonbly decent living monthly income.

So those that have contacted me in the past and thought my fees a bit steep or even those that are current clients that have suggestions, please do keep an eye on the forum I will be running a little "survey" to see where and how to change things and your input will be appreciated.

Considering that tax is exempt, the earning potential can be higher than a normal job hourly rate.

How many ladies actually work out a budget with projected potential sales for the month?

How many of them take some of that income to build up a cash reserve for cases where there are bad months?

Your post makes interesting reading and I have the following points to make:

- I have been punting for in excess of 15 years

- I have definitely been affected by the economic downturn over the previous 18 months to 2 years hence I have changed my punting habits.

- However I cannot agree that SP's have not increased their fees over the previous 10 years. I have, with my own eyes, seen my regulars increase from the regions of R 600 to over the R 1000 mark. This has occurred in the period 2018 to 2021.

- Although during the initial hard lockdown during March 2020 when I did support certain SP's with the purchase of their online material to assist them, I will no longer do so. The reason for this is because the content is generally a non-starter and their prices are ludicrous.

Sorry - just my five cents worth :)

The reality is that a lot of us have been impacted. Being older I am less inclined to look for multiple punts...

The pocket being affected I still punt but I now look more carefully for a relaxing punt that is maybe a bit longer than 1 hour or where a fantasy can be lived out like a little role play.

I would rather savour a special experience and pay a fair price and a tip than chance an unreliable girl.....or have a wham bam. Obviously it is horses for courses but my limited budget now makes me what to have memories to fall back on..

On 2021-10-22 14:43:11 jasimo said:
The reality is that a lot of us have been impacted. Being older I am less inclined to look for multiple punts...

The pocket being affected I still punt but I now look more carefully for a relaxing punt that is maybe a bit longer than 1 hour or where a fantasy can be lived out like a little role play.

I would rather savour a special experience and pay a fair price and a tip than chance an unreliable girl.....or have a wham bam. Obviously it is horses for courses but my limited budget now makes me what to have memories to fall back on..

Exactly bro. Same with me, however I am very horny so I punt regularly. I look for experiences I can remember.

Hot tip: take photos of every experience, you will thank me when you are 80

On 2021-10-22 09:43:04 AnthonyEdwards said:
Considering that tax is exempt, the earning potential can be higher than a normal job hourly rate.

How many ladies actually work out a budget with projected potential sales for the month?

How many of them take some of that income to build up a cash reserve for cases where there are bad months?

Very important and valid points AE.

Very well put together topic Miss Red and not too long that we didn't read.

N4P

On 2021-10-22 10:12:23 landy said:
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- However I cannot agree that SP's have not increased their fees over the previous 10 years. I have, with my own eyes, seen my regulars increase from the regions of R 600 to over the R 1000 mark. This has occurred in the period 2018 to 2021.

- Although during the initial hard lockdown during March 2020 when I did support certain SP's with the purchase of their online material to assist them, I will no longer do so...

Agree on the pricing. There was a venue still advertising here that used to charge R300 for 15 minutes quickies. I used to see them once or twice a week before bwork if I was early, during work if I had a cancelled meeting, or after if I finished early. There was an increase to R400. Not only was that a 33% increase but it immediately out that quickie into the same price bracket as as some very good wgs in the area for 30 minutes. That it also to far exceeded a Top 10 wg at the time that was providing me with BJ and CIM for R250 as I used to support her twice a week when she started.

I certainly have seen the R600 to R1000 increase a few times too. I don't know if whs realise that's a 66% increase, not 10% like fridge insurance who are even doing 2% now.

Then there's the service offering. So taking away CIMbfor example and some making it a paid extra fundamentally changes the proposition and extra R100-200 puts a punters firmly into someone elses bed.

I left in the online part as I personally think there's too much focus in it. Sure there's someml market but I think smaller market and smaller EASIER money to be honest. I say easier because it seems lazy to resell the same stal content. Rather focus on the core product which is face to face interaction and make sure it's a fantastic experience.

JP69

I can only imagine if we punters got those mini things the popular grocery store usually gives out as promotional items from the ladies. Lol

Imagine getting a mini condom or something

@landy I agree with you.

The Swing Door specialists have gone from R500 to R700,
Average CFM's are now R1400 from R900,
the upper market has gone up to R2000+, whereas I was paying R1500 for years.
I watch prices very carefully and agree with the other thread on the subject, basic services are now "extras" and charged for.

On 2021-10-22 14:47:23 AnthonyEdwards said:
On 2021-10-22 14:43:11

Hot tip: take photos of every experience, you will thank me when you are 80

Do many girls allow this? Would tip the scales in favor of they did.